Post by ironcladtrash on Nov 24, 2012 18:13:32 GMT -5
I love this deck. Borgia Cardinal and Forum is an awesome combo and I don't think its taking advantage of a bug like there is with Great Power. I have been trying this deck a lot. You can also run into problems with counters. You could put in cards like Answered Prayer or Ritual Sacrifice to help this deck. I also went another extreme route and used the base of my Medici Deck and used Swapped out Hippodrome and Medicci and put in
Income
5 Dama Rossa
5 Nothing Ventured, Nothing Gained
4 Political Patronage
5 Slave Trade
5 Funeral Pyre
5 Heathen Followers
Winners
5 Lorenzo De' Medici
5 Hippodrome of Constantinople
5 Calling All Stand-Ins
4 Auxiliary Ego
Misc.
45 Militia Intimidation
2 History Glitch
5 Condottiero Tactics
3 Doomsday
5 Bearer of Mixed Tidings
I built this deck starting around Lorenzo and Hippodrome; cards I don't think get used enough. So far it has been working really well. It's really fun to have 10/10 Lorenzos or super buff Stand-Ins so I wanted to share it.
Playing it is pretty simple; just build up your income to 20 before playing Lorenzo. It's also a lot faster deck then it may seem because the income boosts are massive.
Rossa is great for early defense. 10 income comes really fast to play the Hippodrome against site decks. History Glitch just in case you can't destroy or stall quickly enough.
I like Nothing Ventured in here because the opponent can play their more powerful cards quicker so I don't have to decide if I should use Condottiero Tactics on an early Agent or wait for a more powerful one, also I can catch and destroy their better sites with the Hippodrome.
Calling All Stand-Ins loves late game income boosters or play it early if an extra agent is needed quickly. None of their agents are going to be as powerful as Lorenzo and Calling All Stand-Ins.
It's almost pointless to play Hippodrome on a different region if you already have one in play. If you have the income, holding a few Hippodromes, and don't think the opponent is going to threaten with sites just stack them to get a 10 influence site.
Funeral Pyre, Condottiero Tactics, and Militia Intimidation all draw cards and help thin the deck to get your winners. If the opponent is playing without agents use Condottiero Tactics on Dama.
Militia Intimidation works great to make your Winners surprise or if needed use the dreaded surprise Doomsday combo. The reason I have Doomsday in here is against Order or Crime. I don't want to get to 20 income just to have Lorenzo countered or destroyed with Mario if the opponent is holding cards in hand.
EDIT
I tweaked the counts, added Heathen Followers and took out History Glitch and Slave Trade. It is much more consistent now and now has a crazy amount of draw power so the extra income from Slave Trade wasn't needed, you'll get the other income boosters. You could swap out Nothing Ventured, Nothing Gained for Slave Trade but I just like that card and it gives me a total of 14 cards I can play immediately in my opening hand. Also you can delay playing and it just cycle through your Heathen's till the opponent has their own income and the boost benefits you more.
EDITv2
I modified it again to rereflect my current build. Using PP does work just fine in the deck instead of Nothing Ventured Nothing Gained
Income
5 Dama Rossa
4 Political Patronage
5 Funeral Pyre
5 Heathen Followers
Winners
5 Lorenzo De' Medici
5 Hippodrome of Constantinople
4 Auxiliary Ego
Misc.
4
5 Condottiero Tactics
3 Doomsday
5 Bearer of Mixed Tidings
I built this deck starting around Lorenzo and Hippodrome; cards I don't think get used enough. So far it has been working really well. It's really fun to have 10/10 Lorenzos or super buff Stand-Ins so I wanted to share it.
Playing it is pretty simple; just build up your income to 20 before playing Lorenzo. It's also a lot faster deck then it may seem because the income boosts are massive.
Rossa is great for early defense. 10 income comes really fast to play the Hippodrome against site decks. History Glitch just in case you can't destroy or stall quickly enough.
I like Nothing Ventured in here because the opponent can play their more powerful cards quicker so I don't have to decide if I should use Condottiero Tactics on an early Agent or wait for a more powerful one, also I can catch and destroy their better sites with the Hippodrome.
Calling All Stand-Ins loves late game income boosters or play it early if an extra agent is needed quickly. None of their agents are going to be as powerful as Lorenzo and Calling All Stand-Ins.
It's almost pointless to play Hippodrome on a different region if you already have one in play. If you have the income, holding a few Hippodromes, and don't think the opponent is going to threaten with sites just stack them to get a 10 influence site.
Funeral Pyre, Condottiero Tactics, and Militia Intimidation all draw cards and help thin the deck to get your winners. If the opponent is playing without agents use Condottiero Tactics on Dama.
Militia Intimidation works great to make your Winners surprise or if needed use the dreaded surprise Doomsday combo. The reason I have Doomsday in here is against Order or Crime. I don't want to get to 20 income just to have Lorenzo countered or destroyed with Mario if the opponent is holding cards in hand.
EDIT
I tweaked the counts, added Heathen Followers and took out History Glitch and Slave Trade. It is much more consistent now and now has a crazy amount of draw power so the extra income from Slave Trade wasn't needed, you'll get the other income boosters. You could swap out Nothing Ventured, Nothing Gained for Slave Trade but I just like that card and it gives me a total of 14 cards I can play immediately in my opening hand. Also you can delay playing and it just cycle through your Heathen's till the opponent has their own income and the boost benefits you more.
EDITv2
I modified it again to rereflect my current build. Using PP does work just fine in the deck instead of Nothing Ventured Nothing Gained