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Post by mana on Apr 14, 2012 21:01:02 GMT -5
easy concept. undefeated so far. very fast in what it wants to achieve.
name provided by gamemaestro. thx for that!
resource boosts: 5x Dama Rossa 5x Political Patronage 5x KIP
agents: 5x Leonardo
actions: 5x Clothes Makes The Man 5x Copycat 5x pick your poison 5x Indepth Analysis 5x Scientific Espionage 5x tactical upheavel
basics: steal all your enemys win conditions and counters. get out your potential 10 leonardos.
against sites: take opponents biggest sites out of his deck and block his small sites he placed already. also you can copy his really strong sites with copycat if necassary.
against agentrush: get solutions out of the enemys deck while blocking with dama rossa. the longer the game last the easier you win.
against counterdraw: steal all his SCI ESP as soon as you can and counter all his Indepth Analyses.
against discard: throw everything right back with CMTM and SCI ESP.
i know you could discuss the use of TU here. get sth else in there if you want to
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Post by The Rancord on Apr 14, 2012 21:10:23 GMT -5
I just played a version of this deck. Political knowledge damma in depth and clothes to insanly carddraw and ressource boost. Looo Se against site decks that play with gaspar and one time against the only counter discard i deew into 5 scientifc espionaage....doh
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Post by mana on Apr 14, 2012 21:31:11 GMT -5
hmm corecard is PYP here. without it its acompletely diffrent deck havent played against gaspar yet. but id only pick their strongest sites and use em against them. my sites will be replaced too
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Post by Brontobeuf on Apr 14, 2012 22:51:06 GMT -5
I got a deck like that (like 90%) in my deck lists. I don't play TU, I think I have one less Copycat and I don't play Dama rossa. I play Crop, Quick Analysis and Copernicus.
It must have pretty similar results anyway. I stopped playing it as a main deck (still playing it a few times per day) because I was winning against nearly everything BUT Order rush. Officials were just too much a pain in the ass. :]
I'm not sure your variation can handle Order Rush.
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Post by mana on Apr 14, 2012 23:01:55 GMT -5
yes it can. tactical helps there too btw. making those 3/1 guys rather weak and buying time. dama rossa blocks the none officials a bit. and you get some officials yourself with pyp (grimaldi is my favorite choice against other officials). as soon as you manage to get leo out its over anyway. just be sure to draw their untimely ends first :S ( i mean out of the hand by playing some of his own agents )
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Post by Brontobeuf on Apr 15, 2012 0:02:25 GMT -5
^^ Read again what you just wrote.
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Post by Tuism on Apr 15, 2012 0:41:18 GMT -5
Yeah it's a beast of a deck, isn't it pretty much the same as dio's incredible hulk? Anyway I built one and it wins against any good deck lol. Or to further analyze it beats any deck which wins with a win con and not a generally distributed rush force. I'm guessing it wasn't as popular before cos decks and cards were generally weaker back then. Against order rush stealing and copying one or two things is like pissing in a storm. Yes you might win but it's a he'll of a struggle. And it really depends on the opening hand. However like Bronto I also played crops over dama - it can be copied and makes the deck much more consistent in terms of getting a good start. I'm surprised at the frequency that I got pyp in my opening though. It was like magic Great deck yeah. To me though, the biggest problem is how frustrating it is to face it.... It's too strong cos everyone else's decks are strong now. Against noob decks it wobbles like a deflated balloon
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Post by The Rancord on Apr 15, 2012 2:21:10 GMT -5
Btw firc. Doesnt work sagainst official? If officials block my fierce i do not score...
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Post by Brontobeuf on Apr 15, 2012 2:23:28 GMT -5
What agents exactly were in this fight you are talking about?
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Post by The Rancord on Apr 15, 2012 2:30:09 GMT -5
Arquebuiser and patrizio rossi or the beautiful heiress and lorenzo die medici
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Post by barcafan95 on Apr 15, 2012 2:44:01 GMT -5
I have Been Gotten a Beating from this multiple Times and like a MAJOR Beating .
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Post by UnCL0NED on Apr 15, 2012 2:46:01 GMT -5
It's a nice deck concept! I play a similar version based around Niccolo. But mine is not undefeated at all... I lost from a few site decks before and I also remember I faced Bronto one time when he played his, and I won with my big Mercenary Nobles deck against it! I'm not a big fan of this type of decks, because it's a rather passive playstyle, but it's fun to play once in a while, which is why I keep it in my memory-list.
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Post by mana on Apr 15, 2012 4:22:08 GMT -5
^^ Read again what you just wrote. where is my mistake?^^ @ uncloned: passive?! you dont sit and wait at all. action all the time. you barely have time to get out other actions than PYP lol against the order rushes i just pick out their officicals and block em. i dont know where the problem is. yes maybe against a very fast rush with a not that great hand you might lose it. hasnt happend to me. btw: i would never copy plentiful crap >.< and there wasnt any need to do it yet. im fine with the boosters in there.
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Post by mana on Apr 15, 2012 4:57:18 GMT -5
ever saw a courtesan deck lose against its own femme fatale? courtisane dama rossa ftw the others i stole from deck and copycated
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Post by barcafan95 on Apr 15, 2012 5:00:06 GMT -5
OMG Thats hilarious
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