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Post by Brontobeuf on Apr 26, 2012 16:32:12 GMT -5
Hey, I came up a few weeks ago with a fun rush deck. When I play ACR, I play all of my decks, until a few days when I realised that this one can have *very* explosive opennings. I focussed on it a little and got really good results. In a control oriented meta, it's good to publish efficient rush deck lists, to help people getting rid of all the control decks they're facing. This one is nearly a suicide rush. No end game at all. :] 5x Dama Rossa 5x Teodor Viscardi 5x Dante Moro 5x Militia Patrolman 5x Donato Mancini 5x Borgia tower 5x Political Patronage 5x Tactical Upheaval 5x Magnetic Personality 5x Man of the People Playbook: Most of the time, you can just empty your starting hand on the floor. This is good. Best hands have a Borgia Tower in it. Once you got everything on the table, you just have to be very agressive and to make simple additions to win.  Play Man Of The People when your agents just finished their attack, they will have the buff for the next one. Burn the Magnetic Personality to score, there is no need to wait for an agent to kill with it when your goal is to win before they can draw a third card out of their sequence. If the game is too long, chances are you will lose it. For the fun fact, I won a game against a Crime/Scholar deck. He only played a Discreet Calling on a Fabio and Fabio was still launching when I scored the final points.  I hope you will enjoy it. 
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Post by Brontobeuf on Apr 26, 2012 16:37:10 GMT -5
Forgot to say... the good thing with this deck is that you will play for your 500 credits very quickly, regardless of your win ratio. Just surrender when you are sure you won't win (but take care not to give up too easily as a man of the people can change a game by itself).
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Post by jmeredith06 on Apr 26, 2012 19:07:49 GMT -5
Looks awesome/fun Bronto, I'll test it out when I get home tonight  Thanks!
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Post by thest4lker on Apr 26, 2012 23:08:29 GMT -5
Funny you posting this, I have playing a 95% similar deck for the past two weeks, with huge success. Its so fast i was able to beat a roma Vaticana deck two games in a row, and both games he got two vaticana down, using mag pers to score extra in the regions he was trying to lock. Even against forum members I usually win (unless they know from the chat channel what I am playing and play a counter rush deliberately) My only differences are: 3PP (all I have), so I added 2 pre-emptive to make up for the speed I loose 5 art gallery instead of 5 man of the people (love to here your thoughts on why man of the people is better in a rush, I find art gallery awesome in this deck) 2 clothes makes the man and 3 egidio troche instead of 5 TU (but this is the part of the deck I am least sure about) This is the 2nd time you have posted a very similar grown up version (I.e. better card pool) to me, helps me believe I am on the right track 
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Post by Ringel on Apr 27, 2012 0:13:03 GMT -5
I met your deck Stalker. That was one tough Rossa!
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Post by Blind_Angel_(Juelette) on Apr 27, 2012 0:49:29 GMT -5
very usefull in this deck to make accent on nobles. I'he added beatifull heiress, arquebuser, some grimaldi, some charles de la monte, instead of dama, militia, donato. also reduse marco by 3 ( it defensive card not offensive), added art gallery, and catherina. order of the king for income and for noble draw must have.
in that case whith good hand you can rush 2 arquebuser with pp, or arquebuser, dante, OoTK. Insteed of 3 dante, and 5 teodor all over agents have attak more than zero, in your deck you have 15 agents whith zero attak.
catherina and heiress is the goal for this deck. teodor offen wins the game this his ability.
later i manage my oun list. and you see it's much more better.
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Post by The Rancord on Apr 27, 2012 1:03:28 GMT -5
I actually see a trend going away from classic control decks to faster ones with khap, to a quick in depth and other evil stuff.
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Post by Blind_Angel_(Juelette) on Apr 27, 2012 1:11:54 GMT -5
5x Teodor Viscardi 3x Dante Moro 4x Arquebuser 3x Caterina Sforza 2x Beautiful Heiress 2x Charles de la monte 2x Carlo Grimaldi
5x PP 5x By order of the king 3x Forced Inheritance ( because no dama, maybe another more usefull income) 4x Tactical upheaval 3x Magnetic Personality
5x Borgia tower 4x Art gallery
concept the same, just rush as fast as you can, drop all you hand on board at day one.
Deck need tuning on quantity of each agents and over cards. may be more caterina less dante? more MM less TU or Inheritance? more beatifull heiress less.... ?
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Post by Tuism on Apr 27, 2012 1:13:05 GMT -5
My version of this I've been running has the Borgia bosses thrown in for tutoring cos it has really good income for early game finisher, by the time you run out of hand you can drop a beefer and kill 
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Post by UnCL0NED on Apr 27, 2012 2:10:16 GMT -5
I also got obliterated by thest4lker with this concept! I was a bit surprised, because I also was going for Orsini in my Thieves deck. But by the time I got Orsini in my hand, he already had buffed his Agents and was unstoppable... Nice, simple, efficient concept!
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Post by thest4lker on Apr 27, 2012 2:37:57 GMT -5
Blind angel, I've tried the heiress, and even though I thought it would help, it just lost some of the flow. I know you think bronto's deck is too many zero power agents, but the gold push lets you get to the man of the people (I've added that into mine now, although its still a diff. Mix go bronto), spam everything like mad, and have change left over to boost teddy pretty early if you need more power.
I also think your deck is not quite focused enough. Is it a rush or control? If its a rush, drop caterina, put in some dama for even more income boost, drop Carlo for donato, and i would even drop arquabiesier for patrolmen. Otherwise add some counters and stronger agents for late game. Your deck is a little in the middle between rush and control. If it meets bronto's deck listed here it will be out rushed, but if it meets a strong counter/ contol deck it might also be in trouble. IMHO
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Post by Blind_Angel_(Juelette) on Apr 27, 2012 2:59:17 GMT -5
I disagree. My deck is pure rush, try it. Where you see any control card exept carerina?. Caterina is 1/1 attacker, 2/2 with touer, 2/1 with heiress, and can kill the problem in mid game. i have 3 of them - i don't want it in my opened hand, she is situative. also grimaldi good first drop with pp, if i don't have him i have arquebuser or something else. 3 attak against 2 not big advantage if play donato, but 2 cost is fery good for rush. in bronto's deck you have touer and man of the people key cards ( because of many zero agents). key card - first taget to counterspel. I never lose with my deck, even if i don't fast enogth caterina gave me the win ( for example, she kills Tuism's bosses  ) p.s. never play against site rush. of course test with competetive players needed.
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Post by Blind_Angel_(Juelette) on Apr 27, 2012 3:04:39 GMT -5
may be good tuning will be to add more officials: Donato with Arquebuser. 
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Post by thest4lker on Apr 27, 2012 3:52:48 GMT -5
I don't like Carlo as a rusher (although in othe decks he is great)... After two attacks he has scored 4. Donato or patrolman score 6. If I have to attack a region 3x with the same attacker, I have probably lost...
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Post by thest4lker on Apr 27, 2012 3:54:15 GMT -5
Ps blind angel, I'm not saying its not a good deck, just not my flavor 
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