[faith/scholar] Chuck Lock

[Tuism]

IMO, San gimignano and lair of Romulus is equally if not more powerful compared to church combo, and more consistent coa they don't need to be combo'd.

Have been tweaking this one a lot so what I'm sitting in right now is a lot different from what I had up there

Also, this deck is massively crippled until the papal discard bug gets fixed...

[thest4lker]

Couldnt agree more with Tuism re gimignano and Romulus, I've stopped playing the church combo completely in favour of that (although no in this deck, which I don't have)

[UnCL0NED]

Yup, I killed off a church deck just now with forli and gimi...

[Brontobeuf]

The advantage of the Church combo is the ressource boost it gives mid game.

[Tuism]

May 5, 2012 19:43:39 GMT -5 Brontobeuf said:

The advantage of the Church combo is the ressource boost it gives mid game.

Yeah agreed. Even early game, if you draw two basilicas.

[kwunyinli]

Hi

I'm interested in building a prison deck and this deck drew my attention. I don't have the cards, so I haven't play tested it, but what's the reason for not playing massive sweepers? I find that discard is most potent when you walk them into a sweeper like Animous Reboot. I'm not sure if there is another, but when playing the CPU, it used Wrath of Righteousness on my newbie noble deck, so I felt that it was really strong. Also because of the real time draw, discard is a real threat when timed correctly. I think this deck would benefit greatly from sweepers. What do you guys think?

Furthermore, with this strategy, I think your win condition is incidental. It can be Secluded village, the important part is really the lock. Once that's on, it really doesn't matter what you win with. I doubt sans Gimignano is even necessary at that point.

[Tuism]

For me, the strategy isn't to get to the lock as a matter of speed - Getting the lock down ASAP means you still will lose if you are at a disadvantage on the table. You can't sweep cos you gotta have those two agents. So I try to win with a quality offensive and discard setting up for the lock, if the lock doesn't come out I can still win. If the lock works mid-late game then the win is sealed. That's my Strat anyway.

[Tuism]

Additionally playing a sweeper against so-called noobs only mean that you will learn to play smarter and hold back agents if you can smell a sweep coming. If you can't smell a sweep coming then you should definitely learn to. Don't assume it's about expensive cards - its about playing smart and learning! good luck

[kwunyinli]

I never assume its about expensive cards. If you see my deck and it's origin, youll know I over value some cards that the market under values. Actually, about the sweeper, I know that it'll take out one of your dudes, malf-something.., but your stranger gets put back into your hand correct? You only really lose two cards while supposingly they lose all of their best cards. I'm not saying you should spam sweepers even though my post seemed like I wanted to. What I'm saying is, shouldn't you play some sweepers besides lassitude to remove relevant agents on the table.

I realize your deck doesn't play that way, but it was just a thought. Im pretty set on a discard based prison deck though, since I've invested in some Divine Intervention as per mana/your recommendation. Its working quite well. I like it more than I thought I would.

I'll work on a variant and report back soon.

Edit: I was excited, here is the list I've come up with. I haven't tested it yet, but... Ok, here is my proposal:

Accelerant
5x Plentiful Crop
4x Knowledge is Power
5x Benevolent Midwife

Utility
5x Divine Intervention
2x Ancestral Discovery
3x Lasitude
5x Animus Reboot

Lock pieces
5x Malfatto
1x Doctor
5x Mysterious Stranger

Sites and primary win condition
2x Venezia
5x Engineer's Workstation
1x Novella Catacombs
2x Buried Cathedral

Ok, still no comment? Alright.