Ezio assassin not working against sites?

[lurifaxb]

Enzo, assassin seems to have a problem against sites that are being deployed upon. Twice I have notice his deploy effect doesn't work. One time I targeted a site that had another site being deployed on it. I expected it would kill the new site when ezio finished deploying. Nothing happened. Maybe a feature?
Again today someone used ezio on my site. Then I deployed a new site as ezio was still being deployed. Oddly enough ezio did not kill the original site and my new site replaced it with all the influence being moved to the new site.

It seems like it was after the patch. Am I the only one who have noticed this?

[Tuism]

This has come up many times. Not a bug,

Ezio's ability kills sites or agents. They don't kill "sites or agents or launching sites or agents" like Giovanni or Mario does. Therefore when you target a site, and it gets replaced, the new site resolves, and ezio loses his target. The arrow is still there but there is no more target.

Actually it sounds like Giovanni would be the same. A card cannot switch targets after it has been established.

[thest4lker]

Giovanni targets site or launching site. If you target a region with an existing site and a launching site, the launching site takes priority and he targets that. At least that's my explanation, because Giovanni definitely does take out the site in this situation, as opposed to ezio

[Tuism]

If you target a region with a site AND a launching site - but what about a site without a launching site, which then gets a site played on it AFTER Giovanni targets it? Does Giovanni switch targets? (cos technically Giovanni targets the site and not the region)

[Rob (Roebidoebi)]

You can't play Giovanni when you do not have a site as target...

[Pete]

He does have a target in tuisms example.

[lurifaxb]

Thanks. Although I seems like I see a problem with killing sites in general.

For instance. An example. My opponent deploys ezio. Targets my site. I deploy a new site. Ezio does NOT kill the original target AND the influence is moved to new site. Please test this. If this is the case, you can negate Ezio by just deploying on top.

I also seemed like something similar happened today. Just not Ezio but Controlled Arson. I deployed a site on top while Arson was being deployed. Nothing happened. Influence passed on. Actually site went back into my hand due to Library.
I think I saw it with Mob Justice as well.

[thest4lker]

Tuism, in your example he kills the site that is already there, and then the launching site arrives.

[Tuism]

Ah yes stalker, I really should have worked that out, its logical

Playing a site over a site targeted by Ezio's sites kill will result in the same: they resolve in the order they were played, so the site gets killed, the new site comes in, without the old site's influence.

[thest4lker]

Yeh, nothing changes targets once it is launched. It's just that Ezio and Giovanni target different things. Ezio will only target the existing site, not one already launching. Giovanni will target an existing or launching site (that is already launching when he launches), with the launching site taking preference.

[Tuism]

Yep yep

So to clarify:

Ezio is useless if you try to kill a site that already has a site AND a launching site on it - you'll target the site already there, and the launching site will resolve, and your Ezio will lose target.

Net effect - it LOOKS LIKE your Ezio did nothing at all (well it did do nothing at all, but you targeted the wrong thing in the first place)

[lurifaxb]

Thanks guys. I still have a sneaky suspicion that there is more too it regarding nuking sites. I'll write again if I see more.