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Post by Tuism on Jun 23, 2012 6:17:06 GMT -5
11 cost gold
+4 gold, shuffle your archive into your deck
If this card is discarded, put it back in your hand and get +2 income
I'm almost willing to say this is imba when in conjunction with devoted scholar or anything like that...
My prediction is that it'll get a nerf. Watch out.
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Post by The Rancord on Jun 23, 2012 6:33:04 GMT -5
There are faster ways to get card advantage. Why returning a card to ure hand that does nothing, when u have the green version?
U could just play claudia auditore and draw a card extra each turn, but without needing a 2nd card to do it
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Post by Tuism on Jun 23, 2012 6:39:43 GMT -5
No you don't understand, it's +2 gold and a card for free. Just try it an see, it's insane advantage.
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Post by Brontobeuf on Jun 23, 2012 7:46:44 GMT -5
I have three decks running this and Devoted Scholar in combo with other 11-cost-cards. It's really strong. Told you this one is the best by far.  |
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Post by IchiRomero on Jun 23, 2012 11:26:18 GMT -5
But not shuffle only your archive, it shuffles all the memories
sometimes it could be worst
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Post by The Rancord on Jun 23, 2012 11:35:52 GMT -5
I see your point, but I dont see the imbaness. I dont think its a game breaking combo, the advantage grows to slow. I can see it more with brontobeufs nicolo, cause PP decks usually suffer from a slow ressource buildup, when they cannot kick in an significant advantage with PP they loose alot of tempo and are stuck with medicore cards.
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Post by Tuism on Jun 23, 2012 11:37:28 GMT -5
If you're playing against a bad deck you shouldn't care. If you're playing against a good deck I doubt there's anything that'll seriously be bad.
Plus, it destroys the archive for decks that use it,
Plus, you really rarely use the huddle ability, this one is really mostly really for the income combo with the discarders.
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Post by The Rancord on Jun 23, 2012 12:04:14 GMT -5
I just think you get overexcited about this card and trying to defend it against everything.  |
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Post by Tuism on Jun 23, 2012 12:11:38 GMT -5
Play it and see, I'm actually for nerfing it. Very very strong |
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Post by Brontobeuf on Jun 23, 2012 12:13:49 GMT -5
I don't see any reason to nerf it.
It has counters (Holy Day is in all Faith decks right now) and doesn't break the game. It's just a ressource generator that requires another card to work.
It's strong, as I said, but not imbalanced at all.
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Post by zazuzoyrigoyen on Jun 23, 2012 12:18:01 GMT -5
imperial gardener
cost 2
2/2
ability: memoryes intead of going to the archive are erased
that ends with incite revolt card advantage
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Post by keliel307 on Jun 27, 2012 1:53:45 GMT -5
I use this card as an anchor in a deck that runs on getting gold fast to pump Merchant Guilds. It's green and red, taking advantage of Bitter farewell to get a +4 gold and make the opponent discard a card for 1 gold. I have stacked 5 family Heirloom and 5 quick study in there and on a normal draw I look for accelerators (knowledge has a price, Den defense) a way to get Incite revolt and 1 or 2 merchant guilds in my hand as soon as possible. I never plan to play Incite revolt, but I use it to bounce off the discard effect and turn it into gold. Laboratory research becomes a great deal when it actually carries +2, draw 2 cards and do not discard one for 2 gold. The discovery is another good one. I add devoted scholar and when they survive they get me +2 gold and a card in 1/2 day, again preventing me from discarding.I carry Lassitude and Wrath of the ritheous for damage control from critters, field study and one daring experiment to draw cardsNothing ventured - Nothing gained for a +4 that turns into 4 points when the guilds are in place and one Monteregionni that can help if you face a deny deck (in which case I try to stack all my spells in one big blasé while the opponent just cast something). One red card can kill the combo though, it lets you pick a card from the opponent hand. The only time I actually play instant revolt is if I need an extra +4 gold to tip the balance for me at end game time, especially if monteregioni has survived and I have 2 guilds going, that +4 points on each... It's not perfect, but it's fun to play and has a specific focus sequence. I'm not doing to bad with it, more victories than defeats on auto match at level 30. It can actually get very fast. I've several wins because I have the guilds set and I draw and gain gold fast. More surprise gold gain cards might help it. I thought of putting funeral pyre and slave trade in there but I try to keep the costs low... I haven't looked long and deep for other interesting cards that could work with this. I'll try to change the red for another color and see what works or not. I think green is mary to it because of the card picking ability that's needed. It sure is a fun card 11 cost gold +4 gold, shuffle your archive into your deck If this card is discarded, put it back in your hand and get +2 income I'm almost willing to say this is imba when in conjunction with devoted scholar or anything like that... My prediction is that it'll get a nerf. Watch out. |
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