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Post by lurifaxb on Jul 30, 2012 14:59:24 GMT -5
I haven't played pure thieves - like ever. So can't say if it is better. I do think that this is faster boosting agents and more versatile due to the family heirlooms. Grab anti agent or anti counter or what ever you need. I often have 6 x 8/8 agents or the likes with plenty of spares in my hand mid game.
I'm up for a challenge vs your thieves to test it out.
I think you are right on the 5 galata though. Grabbing it with heirloom will be too slow initially. Early counters do give me a headache. But then again vs non counter decks they are garbage.
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Post by coolkendude on Jul 30, 2012 15:01:22 GMT -5
I came to realize that it's cheaper and faster to play a Thieves variant. I'm not sure that it's cheaper to play a Thieves variant here. When I looked at the market this morning, I thought I saw Altair, Assassin going for ~2,000 Animus Credits which is a lot pricier than Assassin Recruits. You'd probably also add La Volpe, Damat or Lanz to buff up your thieves, all of whom are pricier than Sly Smuggler. I agree that the thieves variant is faster but I still think the plebes variant is cheaper. |
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Post by Educatedcollins on Aug 2, 2012 20:18:17 GMT -5
I made a version of this deck that has your a structure similar to yours and I really like it.
I however, didn't hesitate to add other color cards that can boost the goal of the deck like forced inheritance and the works.
Its not bad dude to almost Every action card in the deck is a surprise, making me able to react to unexpected changes that occur.
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Post by UnCL0NED on Aug 4, 2012 2:55:04 GMT -5
I stand corrected about my Thieves remark! I just got my ^%#* served by you playing your traders deck, when I was playing a variation on Bronto's Ox Rush (which I think is a very strong deck). Although it was a close call, it proves to perform quite well in the current meta. GG! Also I've been play-testing a Thieves variation a few days now, and playing Traders is much more fun. Income is not a problem with Traders anyway, so you will probably see me playing more traders than thieves in the future  |
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Post by UnCL0NED on Aug 4, 2012 3:01:21 GMT -5
I came to realize that it's cheaper and faster to play a Thieves variant. I'm not sure that it's cheaper to play a Thieves variant here. When I looked at the market this morning, I thought I saw Altair, Assassin going for ~2,000 Animus Credits which is a lot pricier than Assassin Recruits. You'd probably also add La Volpe, Damat or Lanz to buff up your thieves, all of whom are pricier than Sly Smuggler. I agree that the thieves variant is faster but I still think the plebes variant is cheaper. With cheaper I meant cheaper playing costs. Like a La Volpe for 4 giving your thieves +2/0 instead of the 6 cost Thieves variant. You are right. Thieves are way more expensive in A$. And as remarked above, Traders are a very nice alternative over thieves, so if u are limited in credits, don't hesitate to choose to go for a traders deck! |
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Post by lurifaxb on Aug 4, 2012 5:22:46 GMT -5
You are right in that what can slow down the deck is the price of the main guys. Assassin recruits cost 4. Sly smuggler cost 6. The other merchants I use cost 0 and 1.
I just made a modification to the deck to include 5 PP. This makes it possible to drop an assassin first day and if you have a cost 0 peasant in hand you can drop both for instant draw.
This little adjustment makes it more competitive, but it takes the concept of pure gold out of it.
I still think that this deck is faster than a thieves deck, since thieves take time to build up, whereas peasant get instant boost with deploying of sly smuggler.
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Post by coolkendude on Aug 4, 2012 7:21:07 GMT -5
I just made a modification to the deck to include 5 PP. This makes it possible to drop an assassin first day and if you have a cost 0 peasant in hand you can drop both for instant draw. That's exactly what I did in mine.  |
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Post by coolkendude on Aug 4, 2012 7:57:37 GMT -5
With cheaper I meant cheaper playing costs. Ahhh... didn't think of it that way. |
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Post by UnCL0NED on Aug 4, 2012 11:05:22 GMT -5
Haha, I did exactly the same in my deck. 5x PP and 3x Ancient Map to speed things up and give it more focus! Still do loose often! I also play 1 history glitch to buy myself more time, and let my beefed up Merchants score instead of using defender!
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Post by lurifaxb on Aug 4, 2012 11:11:33 GMT -5
The deck does well, but it is not the best out there competitive wise. Counter decks can get the best of you early in the game, unfortunately. And the many strongholds is a problem. I'm considering putting back some of the militant intimidation for quick deploy of Galata district or important agents.
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