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Post by lurifaxb on Aug 1, 2012 12:31:29 GMT -5
There are some good combos in the courtesans against agents. Kill by block. Kill by sacrifice other agent. Bring back courtesan from archive. If you get this going an agent deck would be in trouble. The problem is with sites though... Habour of Julian? That would actually be really mean with the girl who removes 2 influence!
You can also play merchant guild to have alternative way of winning. A black - light media (draw and dama) and strong gold with family heirloom. Could work?
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Post by Ringel on Aug 1, 2012 12:32:47 GMT -5
The Militia Intimidation surprise would vanish with the 6th courtesan as well. You could surprise in the anti-counter site, perhaps.
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Post by lurifaxb on Aug 1, 2012 12:34:10 GMT -5
@lurifax: I know. And when I tried it I recognized that even the sixth courtesan (which replaces Ezio) resolves as a surprise. Interesting. I then should have played Militia Intimidation before so that FF also resolves as a surprise even though Ezio is no more. Needs a little setup though, lol... Cool. Didn't think of that. You can't play military intimidation before though. Since it would be instant and grant next item surprise, which would be the courtesan. Then you should go scholar and use the one that gives actions surprise.
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Post by felixschroeter on Aug 1, 2012 12:36:50 GMT -5
Ringel: Ah, yes, you're right. Didn't think of that. @lurifax: Lol, if I had 2 Merchant's Guild and played 6 courtesans I might even win without playing FF as almost all the girls boost my income by 1 or 2.
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Post by felixschroeter on Aug 1, 2012 15:03:01 GMT -5
Okay, to sum it up. We have at least 5 propositions: - Crime/Order: Boost agents with Borgia Tower and other blue support - Crime/Media: Draw with BoMT, boost agents with Brothers in Arms etc. - Crime/light Media: Agent removal with courtesans and Stronghold - Crime/Golden: Use Merchant Guild, Family Heirloom for alternative win - Crime/Scholar: Boost income, launch Ezio, Mentor, spam courtesans They all have weaknesses and strengths and most of them rely on multiple win strategies. I get the impression that we won't come up with THE one "Femme Fatale 2.0" deck, at least until there are new cards that support the FF strategy. Funny side note: I just played one game with a FF deck that consisted of 35 courtesans, 5 FF, 5 MI and 5 BoMT. Won against a Suleiman counter deck. Sometimes you should keep it simple, it seems. Thanks for the input everyone! Please continue discussion if you feel like it.
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Post by matavious on Aug 1, 2012 16:33:27 GMT -5
A site equivalent for Ezio, Mentor would sure help. I like courtesan decks which Femme Fatale is a red herring for the true win condition. Crime / media with Art gallery and Assassin Stronghold sounds fun.
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Post by TemplarTyler on Aug 4, 2012 10:11:58 GMT -5
I dunno, if you are all still working on this. But with Media you could use Art Gallery as an alt win condition too?
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Post by Diomedia on Aug 4, 2012 11:10:14 GMT -5
With media mag pers and beguiling courtesans is a nice suprise blocker
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Post by Brontobeuf on Aug 4, 2012 19:57:29 GMT -5
In Order, this site that makes you draw cards when you campaign or block in it is a very good combo with Fiora. And if you draw cards, chances are that you will be able to play your combo. :]
Harbor and Paola are also quite annoying to gain sometime and to avoid being beaten to death by combos and site rushes.
In media, you can also play the +1/+0 to agents to avoid being vulnerable to TU and to give your army more agressivity (in media you can have agressive courtesans).
Scholar can propose surprise FF, but I think Scholar is the less interesting combinaison. Order or Media have much more to propose and Piri,even playable, is not agood addition to a FFdeck.
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Post by Educatedcollins on Aug 5, 2012 0:35:19 GMT -5
I tried to make a version, it's ok but I can't get the speed fast enough to what I want.
5x Nothing Ventured, Nothing Gained 3x Family Heirloom 1x Militia Intimidation 1x Monteriggioni 1x Condottiero Tactics
3x Paola 5x Coy Courtesan
5x Forced Charity 1x Femme Fatale 1x Ezio Auditore, Mentor
5x Ancient Map 5x Sofia's Office 5x Knowledge is Power 2x Quick Study 5x Field Study 2x Impending Pandemic
Get Monteriggioni or Ezio Auditore, Mentor out and go from there.
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