Competitive??

[rl]

Is it really? It's just who can play the most games everyday and gain 50 credits every win. No penalty for losses, it's the same system as before isn't it?

[felixschroeter]

I got the same impression. But it's not really competitive when there isn't any risk of being "down rated" involved, is it?

[coolkendude]

Yeah, it's the same (except you don't get points for ranking when you lose now whereas before you still get 20 points and move up in Gamecenter ranking even when you lose). But felix is right, there's no risk in ranking for losses. I hope they re-do this, if it's possible. But yeah, it's not truly competitive.

EDIT: changed wording on getting points for ranking from losing before vs. not getting points for ranking in the current environment.

[rl]

[lurifaxb]

Awww.

So no ELO scoring just another - who plays most games?

How disappointing. We already had that and now that is "most experienced players".

[jeremyat]

While I obviously don't know all of the ways Gamecenter can operate, it looks to me like they'll need to move to their own competitive servers (a la Shadow Era) in order to truly have a proper ranking system.

[TemplarTyler]

It would help if it even worked! I should be on 400 Points... and in GC it is only showing as 350! So that has just taken any fun out of it for me

[Altaem]

Was in top ten on most played. Not going to bother again. I'll be in casual if anyone wants me.

[coolkendude]

I don't know how Gamecenter operates either and I don't know how a true ranking system works but if they can just insert a simple logic such as decreasing the rank points by 50 (or some number) every time you lose, you'll have somewhat a passable ranking system - one that is hopefully easy to implement within the Gamecenter universe.

This way, players will have to think about risking their rank every time they click on "Competitive" mode instead of just going for it every time because right now, I don't see any difference at all between Casual vs. Competitive.

[kackman73]

Aug 28, 2012 11:37:42 GMT -5 coolkendude said:

Yeah, it's the same (except you don't get XP for losses now whereas before you get 20 I think). But felix is right, there's no risk in ranking for losses. I hope they re-do this, if it's possible. But yeah, it's not truly competitive.

I'm still getting 20 xp for losses (in Competitive). Trust me, I've lost quite a few already.

[Pete]

What does the red plus mean?

[coolkendude]

Aug 28, 2012 12:27:19 GMT -5 kackman73 said:

Aug 28, 2012 11:37:42 GMT -5 coolkendude said:

Yeah, it's the same (except you don't get XP for losses now whereas before you get 20 I think). But felix is right, there's no risk in ranking for losses. I hope they re-do this, if it's possible. But yeah, it's not truly competitive.

I'm still getting 20 xp for losses (in Competitive). Trust me, I've lost quite a few already.

Sorry, what I meant was, you don't get +10 on ranking when you lose - you just lose. I was equating XP and ranking in this context because your Gamecenter rank before was based on your XP. So even if you lose before, your Gamecenter rank still moved by 20 points. But now, your ranking won't move when you lose. I'll edit my post to clarify this.

[mistervader]

Eh? i lost a game and no more 10 credits? This is a thing now?

[coolkendude]

Aug 28, 2012 12:29:42 GMT -5 Pete said:

What does the red plus mean?

Somebody in another post asked this question and I have no idea either. If you use the "Help" button on the screen, it says that it's supposed to be the number of bonus matches you have left for ranking (or something like that) but right now, it just shows a plus red sign.

[coolkendude]

Aug 28, 2012 12:49:25 GMT -5 mistervader said:

Eh? i lost a game and no more 20 credits? This is a thing now?

No, I think you still get the 20 Animus Credits but not the points for ranking.