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Post by Brontobeuf on Jan 3, 2012 9:17:26 GMT -5
Hey, I thought it could be fun to propose an original sequence list here. It's far from perfect, but it can be devastating if you have a good hand. And by devastating, I mean it. 5 Political Patronage - It's a key card. 5 Dama Rosa - She's just here to give ressourçes and to block once if needed. 5 Forced Charity - Basic ressource booster 5 Brilliant Burglary - Certainly the hardest card to play in the deck. Try it, and you'll understand. 5 Secret Catacombs - clear site solution 5 Corrupt Herald - key card, and your first choice if you have a PP in first hand. Install two of them,and it will be hell on earth. 5 Change of plans - Assassin's guild and Mario are good alternatives. 5 Nicollo Machiavelli - you need punch. 5 Ezio Auditore, Assassin - the kill 5 Collateral damage - key card I'd love some inputs to make it stronger. But be sure that it's quite strong already!
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Post by Raphael Majere on Jan 3, 2012 13:15:54 GMT -5
I think I just played u and got creamed. I was playing my first thief deck and got burnt by u. J/k. And it seems the theory of mirror matches is true... as discussed at TA.
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Post by The Rancord on Jan 3, 2012 13:36:30 GMT -5
Intresting, this was my deck concept yesterday, but I never could find something reliable to kill my enemy, cause all my finishers were outnered anyway. The best thing was lance/lia, because most control decks just use sudden exhaust/ultimatly end and cesare to control the allies.
The main problem i had with the deck, and prolly the weak point in ures as well. If you cannot keep his income t lower levels during the first few turns, he is rdy to counter ure stuff.
Btw Im a big fan of media and crime. I ultimatly started with a thief deck, but couldnt stop the blue income build up, so I started to add mroe control. then dama/pp to get my cards flowing. a fast lance is also hard to stop for the blue control decks, since they cannot counter him that early, and he comes back from sudden exhaust, and multiples stack.
So my deck had 3 times Discreet Calling 4 Lance and 4 lia and 4 Forced Charity *only have them each 4 times* but i had no ezio no nicollo. I mixed in 2 mario to the 3 change of plans, because i can search him with discret calling. I used 2 times the gold site destructor because it costs only 4, and i dont want an early lair of romulus.
I only played once with the version i ended, cause of max xp issue *demotivates me to play if i get max xp warning 2 games in a row, and i was 4-5 away from 15 wins*
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Post by The Rancord on Jan 3, 2012 13:56:29 GMT -5
yeah just lost badly. faux-pas/plantiful crop 4 inforced heritance + in depth counter to my colleteral then pantheon RI on day 2. Also sudden exhaust to the herald ouch. Cant win against that without countering something. with my blue/green deck Id just counter his draw, and that would have been it. sigh again against 3 forced inheritance. Also i need to destroy the pantheon, cause i cant counter RI. Since every deck I meet has pantheon and rush to it and loosse on day2, i have to play counter again
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Post by Brontobeuf on Jan 3, 2012 19:52:54 GMT -5
@raph: I was scared when I saw you were playing thieves... Got lucky in the end to draw some Ezios. Good game. The Rancord: i play against blue decks with Inheritance too, and I have no problems ruining their day. The combo PP/Herald is a must-have. If you don't play it, don't play the deck. Also, you are loosing a lot of card advantage to destroy the ressources, it's important to play the strong cards in Crime that gives you some card advantage back. Ezio is important this way. Machiavelli is also very important, if you don't aggro the opponent while you are lowering his ressources, he will just play his cards. Slowly, but surely. You need some pressure, and we don't have that much choice (and I always have some dead solution in the hand to discard). Maybe I can make Ezio da Firenze feat in the deck, but I'm not sure how yet. In the end, if you don't play the ressource-removal cards in 5 copies, that's maybe the reason why you have issues reducing their ressources. Share your deck list!
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Post by The Rancord on Jan 4, 2012 2:19:04 GMT -5
The thing is I cannot win against them, if they have their perfect hand. This is generally the Problem I have with Crime. I can beat blue/green, but not against their really good hands.
So if I want to easily win against the pantheon/RI and other decks, I just play my Laurenzia deck. With Crime, I risk that the game is over without me even having a huge impact (Same with the thief deck or black/green control*at least scientific helps*).
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Post by Top Shelf on Jan 6, 2012 9:00:55 GMT -5
Just wanted to drop by and say, I like this deck idea quite a bit. I'm holding off picking up more cards until I see what the next update brings (hopefully, bug fixes at a minimum), but as soon as I have the remaining 5 cards, I'll be testing it. Thanks for posting the idea.
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Post by proc19 on Jan 6, 2012 11:03:23 GMT -5
Had been tinkering with a Crime/Media resource denial deck. Some thoughts:
- Have you considered High-Profile Assassination rather than Change of Plans? It would play into the resource denial theme you have going. - I only have one Ezio, Assassin, so I've been playing with Calling All Stand Ins as a win con, coupled with Clothes Make the Man, which I have used a bit with the other actions as well in the deck (e.g., Collateral Damage)... - I did have trouble against aggro site or agents that boosted income, but hadn't tried Nico... Will have to give that a try
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Post by Brontobeuf on Jan 6, 2012 17:41:59 GMT -5
Yep, sometimes I play HP Assassination in this deck. It depends on my mood. ^^
To beat rush, you need to have Agents on your side who can fight for you. Nico is a key card imo.
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Post by The Rancord on Mar 31, 2012 7:54:00 GMT -5
Im still trying to win a game with the deck against any decent deck, but there is so much that just ownz it. Forced Inheritance just kills the deck so badly
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Post by Brontobeuf on Mar 31, 2012 9:15:42 GMT -5
This deck shouldn't be in the Competitive section. I got good results with it when I was the only one with 5 copies of the good cards. I wouldn't built it the same way now. As I said in the OP, it's far from perfect. I got fun games with it anyway.
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Post by The Rancord on Mar 31, 2012 9:40:19 GMT -5
I actually like the concept of income destruction guess need to wait for a future edition
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Post by Tuism on Mar 31, 2012 10:11:00 GMT -5
Right now the only real way of playing income destruction is like playing doomsday deck - rush with pp. if you get it right with collateral and/or corrupt herald it's game sealed. If not then you gotta pray that you're not gonna just get overwhelmed while you keep them about 10 income.
I'm gonna try a different approach with income killing.... But to be honest I don't see how else cos when your opponent gets to about 10 income, depending on their deck, your ass is grass.
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Post by mana on Mar 31, 2012 12:39:40 GMT -5
i made a rather successful order/crime income denial... but now that faux pas has no income anymore its much weaker... the crime/media version is now stronger and i am often really able to lock my opponent (i have to mention i only have 1 PP) but as soon as he has a better start than i have i barely manage to come back... wait for more useful cards. will be a viable strategy in the future but not now ps: high profile assassination is so useless for those decks T_T
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Post by gamemaestro on Mar 31, 2012 21:42:51 GMT -5
I've tried income destruction and while I have won a few I think I lost more than I won. Too many people these days are packing good income boosters which just kill those decks. If you catch a deck which has a bad draw or that was built poorly (or get PP, PP and CD) you'll win. If not, good luck implementing the income denial strategy.
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