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Post by Tuism on Feb 7, 2012 13:50:33 GMT -5
Whereas decks was once the most popular section by number of posts, it's been taken over by general - is that because we're more reluctant to share our pride and joy decks so that it doesn't get copied to hell? I guess that's part of it, I'm feeling it too, to be honest Or are there no new decks being built/tested/played? So, without actually disclosing full decklists, what decks have you been playing/building/tweaking? Starting with myself, I was really building my Pietro Rossi deck - it started with Pietro Blue - counter base, sites to win, with Pietro to get a final boost. Otherwise it was agent defence as that's about the only thing that can get possibly through the counter wall. It worked pretty well, but didn't like that it's just a counter wall with Pietro for fun. Then it evolved to Pietro Red which is the discard version. Clothes make the man copying discard is a cool combo, but ultimately I got bored of discard... Plus I didn't think the fit worked as well. It felt disconnected - discard until I can drop big sites. Meh. Then now it turned to Pietro Green - which I didn't thought would work cos Scholar wasn't nearly as strong, but the steal counter, Lassitude and card draw made the deck pretty damn strong. I still have to tweak it but it's doing so much better than I expected So, what're you playing/building/tweaking?
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Post by ericluah on Feb 7, 2012 13:54:17 GMT -5
Current playing order/faith site deck
Still got my all solutions deck.
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Post by Tuism on Feb 7, 2012 14:08:09 GMT -5
Current playing order/faith site deck Still got my all solutions deck. What kind of strategy? Fast? Slow? Rush? I just wanna get some discussion going, not for people to copy decks but to share some ideas Your all solutions deck is still intriguing to me
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Post by ericluah on Feb 7, 2012 14:41:52 GMT -5
Current playing order/faith site deck Still got my all solutions deck. What kind of strategy? Fast? Slow? Rush? I just wanna get some discussion going, not for people to copy decks but to share some ideas Your all solutions deck is still intriguing to me I call it: The Emperor's New Clothes Its quite entertaining to play, and look at what ppl can throw at u. I tried tweaking it to win faster but unfortunately it's only effective to steal other ppl's win solutions. It's a deck which can play against almost any deck without a terrible lose ratio. As for my site deck, I find Order/Faith being most stable against most decks, order counters are essential to counter site destruction, as the most good decks( from players who invested some amounts of $) are packed with site destruction. It is a medium speed deck, slower but it seems I'm meeting a lot of ppl packing anti-site. My site rush meet too many crime based decks packing site destruction. Or it could be my opponents so far know what I am playing and hence use a tweaked decks. I still have only 1 political patronage. No enzio, no mario. So I still can't build some decks that I have in mind. Despite spending almost $300. My mindset when I play, priority is not whether I win or lose. I look at whether I could have dealt with the situation better or made a better choice. In general sometimes u just can't win with the deck you are playing with your current card limitatios. I look
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Post by Tuism on Feb 7, 2012 14:50:25 GMT -5
You look? That's a good attitude, I always try to find something/somehow that I can tweak my deck with. If a deck can't handle something I think about how I can improve it... Well that's all set out in my how to build decks by playing article (in the deck building discussion section in case you haven't seen it) Most good players know to either make their assault faster than sites or pack site removal. Sites are becoming more and more deadly in the meta. The question is is your deck built to handle their removal? There are several ways to do that, and it's not always about counters, although yes it's the easiest way about it. Discard or drawing or using for example pietro Rossi also helps sometimes I also have no Mario's or Ezio's. 3pps fortunately so I have a taste of pp decks. No ancestral, no Juno, etc. I can't be bothered with decks that I can't build, but instead try interesting decks I can... Previous project was ezio I'd Firenze (ended with what looked almost exactly like bronto's nicodeck), now pietro. Before that clothes make the man. Drilling a card like this helps me learn a lot about the game too
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Post by ericluah on Feb 7, 2012 15:13:23 GMT -5
You look? That's a good attitude, I always try to find something/somehow that I can tweak my deck with. If a deck can't handle something I think about how I can improve it... Well that's all set out in my how to build decks by playing article (in the deck building discussion section in case you haven't seen it) Most good players know to either make their assault faster than sites or pack site removal. Sites are becoming more and more deadly in the meta. The question is is your deck built to handle their removal? There are several ways to do that, and it's not always about counters, although yes it's the easiest way about it. Discard or drawing or using for example pietro Rossi also helps sometimes I also have no Mario's or Ezio's. 3pps fortunately so I have a taste of pp decks. No ancestral, no Juno, etc. I can't be bothered with decks that I can't build, but instead try interesting decks I can... Previous project was ezio I'd Firenze (ended with what looked almost exactly like bronto's nicodeck), now pietro. Before that clothes make the man. Drilling a card like this helps me learn a lot about the game too Forced Inheritance works well with Merchant's Guild. and negates your need of having more income boosters. Tax collector's office is awesome too! Counter's having income is awesome too. So it's been an easy choice.
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Post by Tuism on Feb 7, 2012 15:29:15 GMT -5
You look? That's a good attitude, I always try to find something/somehow that I can tweak my deck with. If a deck can't handle something I think about how I can improve it... Well that's all set out in my how to build decks by playing article (in the deck building discussion section in case you haven't seen it) Most good players know to either make their assault faster than sites or pack site removal. Sites are becoming more and more deadly in the meta. The question is is your deck built to handle their removal? There are several ways to do that, and it's not always about counters, although yes it's the easiest way about it. Discard or drawing or using for example pietro Rossi also helps sometimes I also have no Mario's or Ezio's. 3pps fortunately so I have a taste of pp decks. No ancestral, no Juno, etc. I can't be bothered with decks that I can't build, but instead try interesting decks I can... Previous project was ezio I'd Firenze (ended with what looked almost exactly like bronto's nicodeck), now pietro. Before that clothes make the man. Drilling a card like this helps me learn a lot about the game too Forced Inheritance works well with Merchant's Guild. and negates your need of having more income boosters. Tax collector's office is awesome too! Counter's having income is awesome too. So it's been an easy choice. I have a College of Trade deck - it does both the Merchant Guild income booster thing and the Leonardo's Workshop draw cards to win thing It's very difficult to balance the two, but when it works it works like a bomb Very very fun to set up and play, of course it's also reliant on key cards, so falls to being disrupted.
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Post by Ringel on Feb 7, 2012 16:21:11 GMT -5
I've been playing variations on Merchant's guild decks but I don't think they are top of the line. I've also been playing red-green sites, but the decks posted here are what I aspire to, after I pick up enough cards, so there's no reason to post anything.
I've also been playing a Purple (and Gold) only deck for fun, which has done all right.
I've also been playing a common templar red-green which has done surprisingly well, but anyone could build it.
I've been playing various older decks too, and some Lanz variations.
Maybe I'll post my Merchant's deck sometime soon.
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Post by setzer777 on Feb 7, 2012 16:22:07 GMT -5
I have an anti-counter deck I call "Relentless Assault". It's Crime/Media though black is just for Lanz. Aside from him it's almost entirely undercosted agents that have lots of damage and Fierce, but low health (Ardent Actor, Massimo, etc.).
It does well against agent-light decks that rely purely on counters or single-target removal for defense. I have almost no cards that give up card advantage, so after every counter is played I still have a heavy-hitter to play while the opponent is playing income boosters.
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Post by setzer777 on Feb 7, 2012 16:29:37 GMT -5
I also made a deck called "OP Rush" to test out the OP-ness of Lanz and Cesare. Start with Discreet Calling + Lanz and then if they stop that* bring out Cesare (with Order of the King). Even with a limited number of Cesares and blue tutors it works disgustingly well.
*I hold back Cesare until they deal with Lanz, in case they are packing any wipes. If they wipe I throw out one Cesare at a time until they've committed enough cards that a second wipe is unlikely.
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Post by Tuism on Feb 8, 2012 2:12:32 GMT -5
I also made a deck called "OP Rush" to test out the OP-ness of Lanz and Cesare. Start with Discreet Calling + Lanz and then if they stop that* bring out Cesare (with Order of the King). Even with a limited number of Cesares and blue tutors it works disgustingly well. *I hold back Cesare until they deal with Lanz, in case they are packing any wipes. If they wipe I throw out one Cesare at a time until they've committed enough cards that a second wipe is unlikely. Yeah Lanz + Cesare decks... makes me wanna hurl, had one from a while back. It's generally a good idea to not overcommit when you have the advantage on the board I dig the Relentless Assault idea - coupled with Magnetic Personality I guess survivability increases a lot. Is it Assassin heavy? If so Ezio should be in there
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Post by Tuism on Feb 8, 2012 2:15:47 GMT -5
I've been playing variations on Merchant's guild decks but I don't think they are top of the line. I've also been playing red-green sites, but the decks posted here are what I aspire to, after I pick up enough cards, so there's no reason to post anything. I've also been playing a Purple (and Gold) only deck for fun, which has done all right. I've also been playing a common templar red-green which has done surprisingly well, but anyone could build it. I've been playing various older decks too, and some Lanz variations. Maybe I'll post my Merchant's deck sometime soon. No merch guild decks are not top of the line, it's really fun to play though, and is really not that bad at all - it just gets disrupted really easily by key card removal (counters/enough site removal/antonio). The "anyone could build it" decks are especially cool, why not post it up and compare notes? I've not seen much of those - templar red/greens. All I see are many templar noble rushes.
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Post by The Rancord on Feb 8, 2012 2:29:24 GMT -5
I cannot tweak so much atm, casue Im missing cards, so I wait for Auction house. the 5 5 cost gold agents seem quit neat.
Anyway my decks: -Laurentia [Order/Schoolar] *My Most used deck* -A Taste of Pontefic [Faith/scholar] *site strategy, but with so many thieves around site strategy is Suicide* -Romulus Rush [Scholar/Media] *Same Story, site is suicide as long as thieves are so popular* *censored name* [Crime/Order] *Faster than Laurentia but weaker late game* -San Cesare [Order/Media] *Butcher Deck with San Gimgnano* -Circle of Cesare [Order/Media] *the standard surprise deck with 10 cesares* -Nico Deck [Schoolar/Media] *1:1 of brontobeuf, amazing deck, but cant be tweked to answer the meta effectivly without changing the characteristics of the decks completly. The concept is genious though. Problem is that u need enough agent destruction and enough site. If you split u allways draw the wrong cards* -Tango of Dr.Bartolo [Crime/Schoolar] *hard control deck, is a bit weak against Lanz atm*
And I am on a Crime/Media deck, wich doesnt seem to work. *Allthought political/Lanz is quit evil*
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Post by Tuism on Feb 8, 2012 3:14:09 GMT -5
I am having super success with site decks at the moment... Against Antonios I either toss out dead blockers (dama rosa) or just remove them - I don't need the sites to stick around for too long to win anyway. Maybe I've just been lucky. I find if I stick entirely to all-site strat and go completely anti-agent I'm almost always good for the win. The theory is that I overwhelm one channel and deal with another - if I'm not fast/strong enough to overwhelm the one channel because of dilution, there's no point to push that channel. I love Nicodeck when it runs (not enough PPs). Bronto's a genius Need more PPs It's hard tweaking his decks PP/Lanz to me is a bit of a waste, as he is able to come out at day 1.5 anyway without any boosting PPing should be for things 4 and up... I don't PP for Machiavali anyway. Feels like a massive waste - and if Exhausted... meh.
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Post by Zed on Feb 8, 2012 4:23:42 GMT -5
would be interesting to see if the deck building posts dropped at the same time the forum area was changed? Unfortunately work is taking over my life at the moment so I havnt played for a while. Still want to list all of the decks the AI uses in the challenge modes, I got as far as building the deck to do it but havnt been able to sit and do it yet I am on the train for an hour or so today so I might see if I can do something then, but not sure if ill have enough space for the ipad, a notepad and be quick enough to scribble the carasol down. I might even download and install the ipad recording app and just make a video of the opps deck and make notes later... that might work best
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