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Post by UnCL0NED on Jan 25, 2012 6:32:49 GMT -5
Here is a list with all the abilities.
- Cunning: Not affected by Threat; can block any Agent; stops Fierce Damage
- Fierce: In a Conflict, score any Damage above Opponent Agent's Health, unless it has Cunning
- Official: Can only be blocked by an Agent with Official or Cunning
- Recover: When resting, the Agent regains its lost Power and Health
- Threat: When blocked, neutralize blocking Agent before Damage unless it has Threat or Cunning
- Safe: The next Damage or Neutralization is prevented
- Neutralize: Place a Memory from the board in the Archive
- Discard: Place a Memory from your Hand in the Archive
- Erase: Place a Memory in the Erase Bin
(Edit by Tuism)Just as an addendum, here are some notes on each of the abilities to further explain them:
1) SAFE
- SAFE now has an icon associated with it, next to the agent's power/health. Once SAFE is triggered, it goes away.
- MTG veterans watch out: This is not regenerate - it prevents damage and it goes away.
- SAFE does not prevent an agent from being erased.
- Cool trick: Play a Tactical Upheaval to swap an agent with SAFE's power/health, and a 0/4 agent becomes 4/4. 0/5 > 5/5, etc. Great trick with Dante.
- A SAFE agent will damage an agent with THREAT
2) FIERCE - MTG veterans watch out: A Fierce agent blocking can still score! It's like Trample but BETTER.
- Threat is currently a bit buggy when in conjunction with Magnetic Personality.
- In simple terms, a fierce agent scores it's power - its opposing agent's power in the region when he blocks or is blocked.
3) OFFICIAL - This is like Flying in MTG. Think of Cunning as the Giant Spider ability.
- There is also an unblockable agent - he can't even be blocked by OFFICIAL agents.
4) CUNNING - Remember it doesn't die to threat - so your Amerigo CAN block a Lanz and live.
5) RECOVER - This ability triggers when an agent completes it's rest - so it'll still be in a lesser state for half a day after combat.
- Currently, when an agent receives RECOVER, his power/health is noted - and at the end of its rest it resets to that value. For example, if Cesare gets Sudden Exhaustion played on it to make it 0/5, when you play Magnetic Personality on it it becomes 3/8, and will recover to 0/5 - the value when he gained RECOVER.
- As above, when an agent gets more power THEN gets RECOVER, it will reset to the higher value.
- Recover doesn't help if your agent dies outright. So an Amerigo 0/5 blocking a Cesare 5/5 means Amerigo'll die.
6) THREAT - Threat kills any agents blocking the agent with THREAT unless they have CUNNING, SAFE, or THREAT themselves.. A 1/1 agent with THREAT blocked by a 5/5 will still kill the 5/5 and come out fresh as daisies.
- A SAFE, CUNNING or THREAT agent will still damage an agent with THREAT.
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Post by Zed on Jan 25, 2012 6:46:45 GMT -5
sticky please!
can someone elaborate on the threat please? it never did really make sense to me
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Post by Tuism on Jan 25, 2012 7:17:45 GMT -5
I think we'll add more notes to each of these Threat basically will kill ANY agent that blocks the Threat agent at the end of combat, regardless of how big and awesome it is, and the Threat agent takes no damage. |
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Post by setzer777 on Jan 25, 2012 9:33:29 GMT -5
If someone blocks Ezio (threat + fierce) and threat kills them, does that cause all of the damage to go through?
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Post by crazygambit on Jan 25, 2012 9:57:35 GMT -5
If someone blocks Ezio (threat + fierce) and threat kills them, does that cause all of the damage to go through? That's actually a very good question as I've never blocked Ezio. You either get rid of him right away or you lose, so I haven't had the chance. |
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Post by Diomedia on Jan 25, 2012 10:13:46 GMT -5
Wait, I misunderstood sorry?
I have had lots of problems with Antonio due to this, destroying the agent but not the site so I'm not sure if it's bugged at the moment or not, nope I've misread again lol .
Ok I'll go back to sleep
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Post by crazygambit on Jan 25, 2012 10:53:10 GMT -5
Wait, I misunderstood sorry? I have had lots of problems with Antonio due to this, destroying the agent but not the site so I'm not sure if it's bugged at the moment or not, nope I've misread again lol . Ok I'll go back to sleep Antonio is not complicated. He has threat, so when blocked will kill the opposing agent (unless it also has threat or cunning). IF he scores, he destroys the opponent's site. So when blocked he won't destroy a site since he doesn't score. Unless you give him threat with something like Magnetic Personality. |
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Post by Diomedia on Jan 25, 2012 10:57:08 GMT -5
Antonio is pretty complicated, check out the bug reports, I misunderstood the original question , however , it ties in as I used to run a media crime deck with Antonio. I cast magnetic personality on him , he destroyed the other agent a 2/1 but didn't destroy the site. Ergo he had fierce yet it didn't score. Ok we got there I the end phew....
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Post by Ringel on Jan 25, 2012 11:02:57 GMT -5
It is important to note that safe agents will damage agents with threat.
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Post by Tuism on Jan 25, 2012 16:06:26 GMT -5
It is important to note that safe agents will damage agents with threat. Have you tested that? Great point adding to post |
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Post by Ringel on Jan 25, 2012 16:14:33 GMT -5
Oh, yes. I have killed many a Lanz using a Dante-made-safe agent!
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Post by rav950 on Jan 25, 2012 17:30:27 GMT -5
If someone blocks Ezio (threat + fierce) and threat kills them, does that cause all of the damage to go through? That's actually a very good question as I've never blocked Ezio. You either get rid of him right away or you lose, so I haven't had the chance. That *is* a very good question indeed. |
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Post by Rob (Roebidoebi) on Mar 10, 2012 2:09:09 GMT -5
Maybe that's where all the magnetic personality issues are coming from. Threat kills the opponent and fierce scores the full power of the agent. Will test this...
[edit] just tested this with 5/5 Lanz being blocked by 3/1 Donato Mancini. The scores were 4 in my region and 7 in my opponent's region. After playing Magnetic Personality on Lanz (now 8/8) I scored 7 points. Final score in the region is now 10 for me and 6 for my opponent (I have made screenshots to test this). So:
Threat does NOT first kill the opponent and let Fierce do the full damage.
In the case I tested the final score would have been 10-5 if Lanz would have scored his full power of 8.
Thinking about this I think scoring the full 8 points would make more sense as threat says it kills the opponent BEFORE damage resolution... Bug?
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Post by ltgab on Mar 10, 2012 9:01:17 GMT -5
Maybe that's where all the magnetic personality issues are coming from. Threat kills the opponent and fierce scores the full power of the agent. Will test this... [edit] just tested this with 5/5 Lanz being blocked by 3/1 Donato Mancini. The scores were 4 in my region and 7 in my opponent's region. After playing Magnetic Personality on Lanz (now 8/8) I scored 7 points. Final score in the region is now 10 for me and 6 for my opponent (I have made screenshots to test this). So: Threat does NOT first kill the opponent and let Fierce do the full damage. In the case I tested the final score would have been 10-5 if Lanz would have scored his full power of 8. Thinking about this I think scoring the full 8 points would make more sense as threat says it kills the opponent BEFORE damage resolution... Bug? I'll check this out on Monday and come back with the answer. I think Fierce is calculated before Threat. |
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Post by ltgab on Mar 12, 2012 19:32:02 GMT -5
That is indeed a bug, we are checking if we can fix it easilly without breaking other things. I'll update you on this in future buglist.
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