[faith/media] Grand Stealer Deck

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Soo i was lurking and decieded to share my current build. It has good win/lose ratio, but most of the cards assassin rares, so it is quite expensive.

4 political patronage
4 dama rosa
5 divine intervention
5 holy calling
2 novella catacombs
5 clothes make the man
5 tactless theatrics
5 benvenuto
5 buried cathedral
5 ritual sacrifice
4 wrath of the righteous
2 ansestral discovery
5 auxiliary ego
1 copycat
2 doomsday
1 Rodrigo Borgia(pope)

So basically theres simple truth to be known - most decks if they are not rush, or site heavy, have chain of certain cards which deliver victory. There are decks which revolve around 1 or 2 cards. Political patronage + ritual sacrifice assures that you can prevent this at early stages. You can cast it right after kings order or discreet calling to steel important stuff.

This works especially great against heavy-counter chesare decks.

Also alternative way to win is to run opponents deck out of cards with buried cathedrals - 2 placed at once will burn for 9 cards a day(+draw card). And victory through novella catacombs is more valid then site control if both achieved sumultaniously.

Everything else is pure fun - coping agents, spells. Archive searchers surve same purpose. Wrath of righteous/ doomsday to fill archive.

The only flaw that it is a bit thin on income boosters, so there is some times bad hands at start.

[UnCL0NED]

I like your idea of Buried Cathedrals and Novella Cat. very much. I thought about this combo before, but always thought 4 cards a day is not much. But 2 Buried Cathedrals at the same time, makes a lot more sense, of course. Did you already win games this way?
Will definitely try this, as soon as I get back home!
I know I encountered you online already before, but I can't recall who won, then... See you soon

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Well of course i did) I win this way half of the time, because people really underestimate buried cathedral.
Even if you have one buried cathedral, it is 9 days before opponent deck will run out( if he is playing 50card deck). An it is not really that long.
But it has other purpose as well - i can snatch more opponents cards with holy calling/benvenuto. And the archive updates every day = more chances to steal best cards.

I remember i almost got you with your leonardo workshop deck)

[gamemaestro]

I threw a couple buried catacombs into my discard deck a couple days ago for fun and it can be a nasty card. I am not sure that it's my favorite addition to my discard deck, but I played 20 or so games with it yesterday an only lost 2 (one of which I lost due to a careless error). It's fun watching their deck whittle away on the times I drew the site.

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@arriatt I remember that game now! I played a preemptive strike on 1 of my own actions to score the last point. If I didn't, you would've won. Great game! My Leonardo deck is one of the most fun decks to play... I'm a fool for theme decks.
Nice deck you played indeed. I tried to put buried catacombs in a few different types of decks, but I can't make it work as the a core-card in a deck. I see now how it fits in your deck. It can be nice to have as an extra winning option, but I wouldn't rely on it by itself. Maybe some of the other people on the forum have got a nice idea for this card.

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i think you can use it as an extra option for any discard deck or site-based faith deck. Just make sure it does't mess your primal strategy.

[ericluah]

Mar 1, 2012 20:49:52 GMT -5 @arriatt said:

Soo i was lurking and decieded to share my current build. It has good win/lose ratio, but most of the cards assassin rares, so it is quite expensive.

4 political patronage
4 dama rosa
5 divine intervention
5 holy calling
2 novella catacombs
5 clothes make the man
5 tactless theatrics
5 benvenuto
5 buried cathedral
5 ritual sacrifice
4 wrath of the righteous
2 ansestral discovery
5 auxiliary ego
1 copycat
2 doomsday
1 Rodrigo Borgia(pope)

So basically theres simple truth to be known - most decks if they are not rush, or site heavy, have chain of certain cards which deliver victory. There are decks which revolve around 1 or 2 cards. Political patronage + ritual sacrifice assures that you can prevent this at early stages. You can cast it right after kings order or discreet calling to steel important stuff.

This works especially great against heavy-counter chesare decks.

Also alternative way to win is to run opponents deck out of cards with buried cathedrals - 2 placed at once will burn for 9 cards a day(+draw card). And victory through novella catacombs is more valid then site control if both achieved sumultaniously.

Everything else is pure fun - coping agents, spells. Archive searchers surve same purpose. Wrath of righteous/ doomsday to fill archive.

The only flaw that it is a bit thin on income boosters, so there is some times bad hands at start.

this was one of my first deck

easy to be short of income at the start.

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ok, i now found a new fantastic way to lock player. It is kinda an overpowered trick, but requires some high timing skill

For this you need three cards at your hand: Ancestral discovery, clothes make man, ritual sacrifice
basic strategy: play rit.sacrifice, play anc.disc quaterday before the end of day, copy it with clothes make man, snatch back clothesmakeman and ritual sacrifice, play ritual sacrifice as a usual discard lock, repeat.

It is infinite loop since you copy anc.disc. every turn and snatch same cards from graveyard, the profit is that every turn you also get opponents card, and can play it.

[kimo]

You can't do that because ancestral discovery gets "Erased" not sent to the archive.

[Pete]

Mar 12, 2012 1:21:12 GMT -5 kimo said:

You can't do that because ancestral discovery gets "Erased" not sent to the archive.

he copies it.

[gamemaestro]

That sounds like a very nasty trick. Sounds like they will have to make it so you can't copy a virtual action with clothes make the man.

[Deleted]

It's a pity that ritual sacrifice got nerfed. Now you can't steal cards if the opponent plays it while you are in mid-steal.

It also works for a lot of stuff infinite discard, infinite pontific mass every turn, infinite wrath of the rightous etc.

The only way to counter it or to espionage it.

[Tuism]

But it takes a lot of resource to get it going, so it's not really reliable. And it's really slow. But it's great if you can get it running.

I don't know what you mean by ritual sacrifice being nerfed, what changed? If you're talking about the ability to play the card and wait for the opponent to draw and then steal, I don't think that's a nerf - that's a fix

[Deleted]

No no, before you could pull it like this:
At the moment it resolves you can steal any card which is in opponents hand at this exact moment, regardless if he plays it or not.
Itgoes like this: rit.sac resolves, you see opponents hand, he plays a card, you steal this card, and it gets stolen from the playing field, because it was in the hand the moment your rit.sac. resolved.

Now if the opponent is quick enough to play it while you steal, it drops out, preventing discard-type lock.

[Tuism]

Oh yes I noticed that, you can no longer discard-destroy the cards opponent played. Which I think is fair enough.

I would have preferred if you can still do it, but giving the opponent the gold back. Having to select a card at lightning speed doesn't really do it for me. The moment the discard/steal resolves you should at least get a second or two to make your choice.