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Post by The Rancord on Jan 5, 2012 14:33:15 GMT -5
I can jsut say I played allmost the whole time blue/green and never met site destruction. And now since I play My Romolus deck *Wich I love btw*, I meet site destruction everywhere.
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Post by Raphael Majere on Jan 5, 2012 14:34:27 GMT -5
My observation:
IMO:
There is a system matching colors. not so much of deck composition.
Case in point: I play Pan/RI - I face noob Blue noble rush all the time.
2nd case: When I play Order/Media (Purple), almost all my opponents play purple as well. (Purple blue, Purple Black)
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Post by Ringel on Jan 5, 2012 14:40:40 GMT -5
Hmm... I will pay attention to the color mix I face.
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Post by Brontobeuf on Jan 5, 2012 16:27:22 GMT -5
Again, why? A system evaluating the strenght of a deck? How? Do you really think an algorythm is behind this? Ok. What would it be then? - if they play 9 counterspells, then face blue Nobles. - if they play 15 sites, then face someone with 6 antisites or more. - if they play discard, then face courtesan. ?!?! There is just no sense at all in all of this guys. It's a mind trick as said before. You all play blue decks, so you all face blue decks. Blue is certainly the color I play the less, and I face Blues anyway. And there is (was) no matching that takes count of the content of your deck. Sometimes I play my site deck, and the opponent has just nothing to counter the deck at all. Most of the people I face are noobs. That's the only thing I noticed. And it means that if they are testing (or if they were) a matchmaking system, then it would be largely wrong (what noob wants to face a "rich" deck?). Ask yourself how frequently you face a starter deck. Yes, the answer is: a lot.  The matchmaking is 100% done by Game Center. Gabe told us they will implement something different as soon as they don't need Game center anylonger. Why would Game Center check if you have or not Cesare Borgia in your deck? Paired by colors? WHY? Why is it interesting in any way to face someone from your own color? How can it be a key, even incomplete, to a matchmaking system?  I worked in a Casino during a while as a dealer for the French Roulette. It's perfect random and it has no memory at all. But I've seen all sorts of weirdness anyway. Like 3 times the 0 in a row. Or following numbers, etc. In the end, I remember that there were some people around ithe tables who were always talking about that. They were saying: "it will end there because it was there before, we know that" and stupidities like that. Stupid for me, but smart enough for them to bet their money on it. It's the same for everyone. We forget the normal, and we focus on the weird, trying to explain everything. And if we find a rule that match our short experience (nobody can extrapolate on random values at large scale) then we stick to it like if it was a Golden Rule. In the end, it's just random and everything else is superstition and probabilities' anomalies.  Now, I let you all keep this thread alive, I won't come here to bother you again. 
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Post by crazygambit on Jan 5, 2012 16:39:41 GMT -5
Seriously, it is not a mind trick. If you play at less popular times and there aren't any other players playing your exact same deck it will fill up with something else. Plus it's much less aggressive now.
But that Ubisoft did do it at one point in time is FACT. I played Thief, was matched against a Thief. Switched to Purple Exit Stage Right/ Il Carnefece and faced EXACTLY that. Then Juno deck vs juno deck. Nobles vs nobles, not that the Juno is similar to the noble deck, blue/green, but still it was making a difference. Red site deck vs red site deck. The chances of it happening in 20 straight games with such accuracy is nil.
As for their reasons to do this, we can only guess. I already speculated above what the reasons might be. But I think we all agree it's a terrible idea.
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Post by xatria on Jan 5, 2012 16:56:26 GMT -5
I haven't observed this phenomenon. But then again I only play around 10 games per day nowadays.
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Post by Ringel on Jan 5, 2012 17:00:47 GMT -5
I ran a quick 5 games playing my blue/red deck. I ran into: Green+ Blue, Black +? (opponent conceeded), Green + ? (Network sync error), Black + Red, Red + Blue.
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Post by Brontobeuf on Jan 5, 2012 23:13:00 GMT -5
Just quick math: you have 70% of chances to face someone who will share one of your colors or the two. And that's only considering that all colors are as popular. Now if you add the fact that Blue is the most popular in the current meta, and the fact that blue is the Templar color (noobs and player who don't put money in the game play blue), well I'm sure we can reach more than 90% when you play Blue.
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Post by Ringel on Jan 5, 2012 23:34:54 GMT -5
If we are only talking two color combos (no monocromatic decks), then there are 10 color combos. 1 is exactly the same as yours, 6 share 1 color with yours, and 3 are completely different than yours.
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