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Post by The Rancord on Mar 23, 2012 2:07:46 GMT -5
I will try this out, looks intresting
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Post by Tuism on Mar 23, 2012 2:23:25 GMT -5
Looks very close to the deck I have been playing and tweaking lately - yeah it's a fantastic concept, the draw power and the threat adds up to crazy card advantage. Mine is called the Prince of Thieves, like Robin Hood  Corrupt Herald I find to be counter the point of this deck - it's no use scoring once or twice with him - you need him out early and pounding over and over if he's to make any difference, and this deck sacrifices the early game to build up for later. For me, anyway |
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Post by rha737 on Mar 23, 2012 2:51:53 GMT -5
Tuism: i agree; this deck is SLOW but can definitely be a comeback king, especially against site decks. honestly i don't like the deck very much as it's not my play style—its pacing can be a nightmare—but it's growing on me. i feel the sudden exhaustion + tactical upheaval combo is a must in this deck, since sudden exhaustion even by itself proves useful early game to stall while the deck is amassing resources.
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Post by Tuism on Mar 23, 2012 3:19:56 GMT -5
Yep the combo is great for me and has killed me many a key agents - Gaspar Dela Croix for example My version of this deck is one of my strongest - however it sometimes struggles against order agent rush - they're always either REALLY tight win or loses out by half a day in influence. The early game is the key. Remembering to kill even a Arbaquiser with Sudden Exhaustion & contesting your opponent's primary site to slow him down is risky but sometimes necessary cos you got threat on your side. |
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Post by UnCL0NED on Mar 23, 2012 3:57:38 GMT -5
I love your Coy Courtesan in there. I did the same just yesterday in a deck that was a bit to slow to start up, and it does help a lot! you can slow down your opponent at the same time. Condottiero tactics is indeed an underestimated card. I'm just not sure if you have the income in your deck to play it. Also, wouldn't you rather replace low profile ass with high profile assassination? I think it fits better in your deck... Anyway, I think I will copy your deck (as close as possible) and try it out myself. It does look very strong... Thanks for sharing Tuism, please don't kill of Gaspar Dela Croix, when you play against me! It's the keycard in my latest deck  |
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Post by Rob (Roebidoebi) on Mar 23, 2012 4:44:53 GMT -5
Other than Antonio (do include 4 or 5, he is really great!), what do you have to counter sites-heavy decks?
With all the Tactical upheavals, Sudden exhaustion and Condottiero tactics you probably don't need the low-profile assassination. I would include Venezia instead to kill the most annoying sites.
Instead of the Coy Courtesans I would take the Beguiling Courtesans. They give one less income, but can block official agents! And with all the blue out their it really does pay off.
Finally, with indepth analysis and knowledge is power in your deck I would rather take advantage of Lanz ability and include Bartolomeo rather than Nicolaus.
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Post by rha737 on Mar 23, 2012 4:49:47 GMT -5
Tuism: i'd be curious to see your variant of this deck; this variant here does decently against a lot of agent decks, but can really crumble to action/site cards. definitely establishing card presence in the early game helps determine smoother flow throughout the mid and late game. after playing it some more, i can definitely say it is not my best deck, but i like its use of a lot of commons/uncommons :-) @uncloned: i'm still warming up to coy courtesan. kind of a ghetto dama rossa, but she's doing alright so far. along with condottiero tactics, i'm still testing better alternatives out there to help manage recourse costs.
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Post by UnCL0NED on Mar 23, 2012 5:32:16 GMT -5
If action/site cards are your problem, why don't you try replacing Low profile assassination with Against all Odds. Site decks are often packed with Templar cards... Also it's great to counter Silvio B. with, who I've been seeing a lot of lately!
Like roebidoebi says, it is probably overkill to have so many anti-agent cards in your deck, anyway.
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Post by Tuism on Mar 23, 2012 5:42:51 GMT -5
A ghetto dama rasa hahaha I'd rather not post my variant, I've tweaked it so much that it's become something of my favourite bastard child, I hope you don't mind I'll say this though - my deck is NOT shy on income and that's one of the keys  |
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Post by Rob (Roebidoebi) on Mar 23, 2012 6:57:04 GMT -5
Other than Antonio (do include 4 or 5, he is really great!), what do you have to counter sites-heavy decks?
With all the Tactical upheavals, Sudden exhaustion and Condottiero tactics you probably don't need the low-profile assassination. I would include Venezia instead to kill the most annoying sites.
Instead of the Coy Courtesans I would take the Beguiling Courtesans. They give one less income, but can block official agents! And with all the blue out their it really does pay off.
Finally, with indepth analysis and knowledge is power in your deck I would rather take advantage of Lanz ability and include Bartolomeo rather than Nicolaus.
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Post by mana on Mar 23, 2012 11:12:38 GMT -5
i kinda miss the animus reboots in your deck. for me in such card advantage decks it works wonders. play it to destroy 3 cards and its totally worth it already.
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Post by The Rancord on Mar 23, 2012 11:32:32 GMT -5
I dislike copernicus he is weak. I also find the income boost a bit low with the high cost cards
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Post by rha737 on Mar 23, 2012 14:16:14 GMT -5
i agree on many of the points mentioned above: @uncloned: will definitely need to try out that alternative. will test and see. Rob (Roebidoebi): i opted for controlled arson as replacement for condottiero tactics. the high cost was proving too difficult for even late game creature kills. mana: just put some in. i realized with all the score threat creatures in this deck, clearing the field with animus reboots is an absolute game changer. excellent advice. @the rancord: he does have his faults, but i like the fact every creature i play has some sort of score threat (minus the ghetto dama rossas) |
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Post by mana on Mar 23, 2012 14:28:09 GMT -5
the problem with copernicus is that he is a very "slow" card advantage... also he doesnt have threat so he will be blocked in most cases anyway... in my first version of my green black deck i had him too. figured he is useless after some games
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Post by Tuism on Mar 23, 2012 14:32:35 GMT -5
Animus reboot clears the table, and since this is such an agent dependent deck, that defeats the point somewhat. Although you might be able to bounce one or two back before a reboot, I don't think that's a great idea... Maybe?
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