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Post by Tuism on Apr 1, 2012 17:33:48 GMT -5
Royal decree's addition is a really good trick! The speed is still kept up somewhat, Leo's great when he's not getting countered  gj |
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Post by Brontobeuf on Apr 1, 2012 18:48:40 GMT -5
When you don't play Faith, you have no choice but wait for the counters to be burnt to play the fatties.
Maybe a 3rd Cesare could be a good option to help against counters (instead of a Royal Decree or a Tactical maybe).
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Post by eev on Apr 16, 2012 9:05:16 GMT -5
now much more players have playsets of orders and strikes so somehow leo is not as good now in such decks so i play more cesares because of that.
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Post by ericluah on Apr 17, 2012 11:25:10 GMT -5
I like to add San gimignano into counter control related decks. Great against noob sites and offense before you can summon your fatties. Great for burning their counters if they have any.
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Post by mana on Apr 17, 2012 11:51:06 GMT -5
think so too but you hould only draw one of them. so only include 2-3. having 5 of the mis counter productive since you will lose alot of influence many times.
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Post by ericluah on Apr 17, 2012 13:42:47 GMT -5
think so too but you hould only draw one of them. so only include 2-3. having 5 of the mis counter productive since you will lose alot of influence many times. I keep around 3. It keeps the weenie rush at bay as its influence is huge. |
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Post by Ian Struan on Apr 18, 2012 2:49:05 GMT -5
I've tried San Giminiano and Merchant Guild as win conditions. Both are working but Chesare is strictly better IMHO. Control functions of San Giminiano and Chesare are nearly the same (except site control). But in mirror Chesare is uncomparably better. For site control I prefer 2-3 (+search with Family Heirloom/Quick Study) Venezia and 1 (+search with Quick Study) Royal Decree
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Post by Rob (Roebidoebi) on Apr 18, 2012 2:55:59 GMT -5
I keep around 3. It keeps the weenie rush at bay as its influence is huge. It is sooo frustrating to finally play Cesare only to find out your opponent's weenies actually all have Official... That's why you need Leonardo or Lucrezia. |
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Post by eev on Apr 23, 2012 10:35:15 GMT -5
well, that is why i exchanged cesares and leos just for playset of draw sites and few giminianos. gives even more ka and not that vulnerable vs discard and also it seems like everyone plays orders and stikes now so leo is not that usefull too.
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Post by Tuism on Apr 23, 2012 11:32:39 GMT -5
well, that is why i exchanged cesares and leos just for playset of draw sites and few giminianos. gives even more ka and not that vulnerable vs discard and also it seems like everyone plays orders and stikes now so leo is not that usefull too. Did you just say "ka"? I hope you meant that in a dark tower context And yeah the deck you're talking about is another deck altogether, I also have one like that. In fact many I find that Leo gets out much more likely than in depth analysis cos by the time you get to 10 income most of the counter wars has played out already. Plus espionage can't shoot him down. |
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Post by eev on Apr 23, 2012 15:15:28 GMT -5
Tuismlol yeah, that would be card in german, should be ca of course. in control mirrors yep, leo is still good but it's just like every other decks runs now counter creature spells.
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