Deck Performing Statistic

[The Rancord]

So guys, how are your decks performing. For the statistics I add how many wins I achieved with a certain strategies in the last 10 games:

Control Decks:

- Counters & Draw (5 out of 10)
- Counters & Media Surprise Deck (8 out of 10)
- Crime & Schooler Draw deck (7 out of 10)

Midrange Decks:

- Red/Green Site Deck (8 out of 10)
- Strange Feeling Deck (9 out of 10)
- Draw Cult (8 out of 10)


Rush Decks (Both PP Decks):
- Romulus Rush (10 out of 10)
- Nico Deck (8 out of 10)

Intresting, that the control decks perform worse in an enviroment where you can face any deck. In a competitive enviroment where you can tweak the control exactly against the other best performers they will usually do better.

About my Counter Draw Deck: Ive been cursed recently. Like resolving 2 in-depth and drawing 3 Forced Inheritance 2 Sudden Exhaust and a Cesare against a site deck. I will probably add Quick Study again, since otherwise the control decks have very bad recover options.

[Brontobeuf]

Have you already share your decklist for your rush decks? If yes, where?
Curious to read them.

[Tuism]

Nicodeck is yours Romulus Rush I'm sure I've seen in the deck forum

Whether they've been changed from the original postings (more important) I don't know

[The Rancord]

Yeah Nicodeck is Brontos with Copernicus and thespian. I added 2 catharinas, removed one of the Cristina, I reduced Scientific by one, and added shameless to deal with sites. Before patch it performed very lousy, mostly because lanz outpaced u badly.

Romulus Rush, I still think it should be so easy to beat with Role Revershal, but the last gmaes, I just outpaced or outplayed my enemy. Swarming Decks can be quit a problem though, maybee I should add Lassitude when I start loosing against swarmer. Again Lanz nerf helped me alot.

List for Romulus is here: acreedrecollection.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=comp&action=display&thread=376

I added a Knowledge has a price for a dama rossa atm. Usually discard them for lab reasearch if I cannot use them for an instant boost to deploy 2 sites before the cursor jumps to the left. Its nothign special, so it might be because my enemies are just nto prepared for it, and used to other matchups.

[Ringel]

Site rushes have some advantages over Agent rushes. There are only so many site hate cards a deck can usually hold without harming itself, so there is a good chance a deck wont have one in hand.

Agents can slow agent rushes and most decks carry agents. Sites are rarer. Also, if an opponent drops an agent you can drop an agent to slow it down before it scores, but sites can score at least once before being answered.

Not that agents don't have their own benefits.

[mana]

Apr 4, 2012 11:56:04 GMT -5 Ringel said:

Site rushes have some advantages over Agent rushes. There are only so many site hate cards a deck can usually hold without harming itself, so there is a good chance a deck wont have one in hand.

Agents can slow agent rushes and most decks carry agents. Sites are rarer. Also, if an opponent drops an agent you can drop an agent to slow it down before it scores, but sites can score at least once before being answered.

Not that agents don't have their own benefits.

i dont see your point. a siterush has no advantage at all. since sites also get slowed down by other sites and you cant include too many agent kill cards in site decks either... the only valid point is that you at least score once which is a rather huge benefit. agents on the other hand tend to get stronger faster than sites do or allow strong combos for fast scoring (art gallery)... it all comes down to meta game which of them will be more successful.

okay here is are my statistics (i played those decks just for you today and i will play some other the next days)

my own version of a counter/draw: 10/10
my new siterush deck (not much tweaked yet): 8/10
strange feeling deck: 10/10 (just today and is actually AGAIN on a 50 winstrwak atm)

rest comming soon since ima ctually short on time...

[Ringel]

Yes, I suppose you are right. I guess the meta is that there are lots of casual agent decks out there that might have a fighting chance against agent rush. I suppose your stats prove me wrong.

[lefthighkick]

I really don't think there is such a thing as a defined metagame right now. I play against all kinds of random nonsense every day. What's the most common archetype (non-starter deck) that I face? Probably Green/Blue counterspells/Cesare. However, it wouldn't surprise me if everyone in this thread had a different answer for that.

The truth is that without Elo or any kind of competitive structure what-so-ever (tournaments, etc), the meta just becomes a giant free-for-all. Since our competition is so soft, our decks are not getting as refined as they could be. When you can win 10/10 or 9/10 with any reasonable deck, improvements aren't always obvious. Please don't interpret this as an attack on anyone because it's not, but when someone posts that a deck has had x/x win ratio for them, are you impressed? Honestly?

Perhaps the AH will toughen up the opposition a bit by increasing access to cards, we'll see... but there's still no good way to analyze results at this point in the game's life. There's no structure and thus no data. Until there is, remember that we're all just making educated guesses. If there was a tournament tomorrow and you were playing in it, what deck would you play and what exactly would you be basing that decision on?

Sorry if I'm rambing, I'm tired.

[Diomedia]

I find now that I never have a clue , what deck I'm going to face. Agree with you lefthighkick about the ELO, I hope it's the devs next project.

[Raphael Majere]

Without a doubt, the AH will see decks becoming better.

Assuming that ubi will not play merchant and pump cards into the marketplace; it would means that those players who hold good rares/uncommons will need to be generous and put those cards in for auction.

A inflow of assassin uncommons and rares will improve a lot of decks.

Indepth studies, Di, knowledge is power, forli, preemptive strikes, quick studies, pp, forced charity. Various thieves.

Once I've supplied my good friend Pete, the rest of my extras are the rest of you, I have a lot of rares for sale. 14 preemptive strikes, 14 forli, 14 di, that kind of thing.

I am wondering if the auction can be timed, ie, me and Pete get on the AH at same time, I offer sale and he respond ASAP to purchase. We'll see how it goes.

Either way, I will be selling everything I have excess of.

It's april 5th in my country now.

[Raphael Majere]

Apr 4, 2012 22:33:16 GMT -5 Diomedia said:

I find now that I never have a clue , what deck I'm going to face. Agree with you lefthighkick about the ELO, I hope it's the devs next project.

I hope so too! Elo = incentive to play!!!

More people will play the game! Right now, I am finding little incentive to play beyond the 500 credits per day!

[thest4lker]

Agree Lefthighkick. I'm getting very high win ratios with decks I know could be better, so it's very hard to tell what is truly competitive

[thedude808]

@raphael

There was a thread where a forum member posted images that he had extracted from the game some of which pertained to the AH. It looked like there might be a way to have a private sale/auction or whatever. Hopefully there is, but we'll see.

[jefmajor]

I get high win ratio with the freakin' default locked starter deck.

You are only looking at one thing: Your deck.

Here is what you need to look at and why you can't quantify it.

Your Deck + Your Starting Hand + Their Deck + Their Starting Hand

If you know all that, who wins, then you could define a performance or something like that, but there are too many variables.

Starting hand has everything to do with whether you win or lose, and, good deck building just ensures a chance at a good starting hand.

[The Rancord]

God this counter draw is annoying me as hell. Lost yesterday to 2 2/1 agents that came super early.

he used 2 bitter sweet to send my allies back and won it with those 2 lonly scientists OMG. Mana can u shre me your verion, I cant get it to run since I started modifying it. I need to get a good starting point now. Gonna try Untimly End 3 times tonight in deck. I just lost the feeling for the deck. *I need to trust the heart of the cards more *

Lost with Strange Feelings to bitter sweet as well. We were both using grimaldos and Borgia art, but he bounced mine back, while he kept scoring. Sudden exhaustion ona campaigning grimaldo was met with militia training.