[Media/Faith] Block It!

[mana]

i had an idea in my mind for some time now but i hadnt got the cards and it would have been bugabusing. now that the double fierce bug is fixed and i got all cards ill share this very strong (yet not perfect) deck. i have not played much with it and it is veeery hard to play. only for veterans because timing is extremely essential.

Decklist:

Resource boosts:
5x political patronage
4x heathen follower
5x divine intervention

Agents:
5x silvio barbarigo
5x mysterious stranger

Actions:
4x clothes makes the man
2x mob justice
5x tactical upheavel
3x copycat
5x man of the people
2x wrath of the righteous
5x ancestral discovery

this is just a rough sketch of the decklist because i am still tweaking alot. it doesnt do as well as i want it to do. much room for improvements and i will be thankful for every advice and try it out.

Playsection:

the synergies are amazing. everything combos with everything! the only problem is when you dont have cards to copy in your hand

examples (i might forget here alot):

followers and man of the people. i had all followers (4) out on the field and man on the people together with 2 clothes makes the man and 1 copycat in my hand. i will upload a screenshot of that my enemy was finished within a round even though he blocked 2 of my followers

silvio and man of the people:
first of all noone is going to exhaust your silvio because you have so much recover effects. second of all is that your silvio wont lose his health when he is recovering! his safe protects him. so you get a 3/7 silvio after he recovered. then you can combine it with tactical upheavel and voila you got a 7/7 fighting machine

ancestral discovery and clothes makes the man/copycat:
a divine combo. paly AD copy it and take your clothes/CC and another card back from the archive. once done this combo costs you only 2 to go on with it. infinite cardusage out of the archive for 2 costs! when you get a bad start you can abuse this combo to get income boosters of your enemy. together with the discard of divine intervention you are also able to steal the enemys strongest cards and play it against him before he gets a chance to answer. he plays against you and himself! also you can establish a discard lock if timed correctly with AD/CMTM/DI.
i am sure there are various more things but i cant mention all here

and ofc silvio and wrath should be clear here...

weaknesses:
-counterdraw if you let them counter all your silvios... (but most of the time you still got your strangers on the field then also your silvios should be on the field early due to PP )
-discard? i havent palyed against a decent discard but i guess i can make my enemy discard as much as i have to.
-rush... if you get a slow hand and dont manage to block em long enough it gets pretty close.

so thats it. i hope you like it. and also i wanted to mention this deck was an attempt to build a butcher deck with silvios instead of carnefice but that didnt work out too well (i wanna use exit stage right so badly...)

[Diomedia]

Sounds good, I expect the meta is going to change quite a lot now, i get a feeling I'll be packing scientific espionage into my decks again.

[mana]

was it ever out of the meta? scientific is strong against discard and counterdraws so it is always valuable. ( also so many people will try femme fatale dcks now )

but scientific loses to this deck... i can steal it...

[Diomedia]

True, there was a time when I needed it due to the amount of pan RI, after the fixes, I found that I didn't use it as much and then went back to other decks. I think then there was a lot less players and all of us had a decentish Cardpool though. When I have the time I'm going to try some new decks but at the moment I only get like 10-15 mins on my iPad.

[Tuism]

Not sure whether I think it's competitive, but it's certainly original! At first I thought it looked like an exploit but it looks like its not

Love the originality!

[mana]

Apr 13, 2012 12:45:14 GMT -5 Tuism said:

Not sure whether I think it's competitive, but it's certainly original! At first I thought it looked like an exploit but it looks like its not

Love the originality!

i think it will be competetive. it flows so well. you should try it out but i feel like i have to change some small bits.

i need sth else vs sites... sucks so much when borgia tower cant be destroyed... so i search alternatives for easy come easy go...

[Ringel]

Faith man! Faith!

Neat deck.

[The Rancord]

Ok, Im usually the one who critices things and tell u the flaws, so I might as well go on with that.

The Concept is pretty good, but you made some mistakes while deckbuilding (Probaly, the cards u add to every deck right away)

Im gonna try something new now and comment every card.


Resource boosts:
5x political patronage *agreed, but you lack explosive cards*
4x heathen follower *Add Damma Rossa, you will have a hard time boosting your ressources. So many situational cards, that means you cannot even use the good Boost of Political Patronage
5x divine intervention *agreed*

Agents:
5x silvio barbarigo *Of course *

Actions:
5x clothes makes the man *Unrelient as hell with ure deck. Id rather reduce them to 2-3 copies and add more of the others. If you dont draw the cards you want to copy, its no use*
2x easy come easy go
4x magnetic personality *Why? Silvio is safe, and you playing a rather slow deck, if he blocks silvio he losses cards.*
5x tactical upheavel *5 pieces? You can only use it on silvio or when ure enemy plays a target*
5x copycat *Also think to much copy effects, compared to real cards*
3x man of the people *this card is expensive and u play only 9 allies yourself*
2x wrath of the righteous *Yes but add a copy, so you draw it when u need it. You cant copy what you never draw*
5x ancestral discovery *Card is good, but I dont think that you have the cards in deck that you need 5 of it*

I know im kinda messing with your infinite Combo here, but if you post a deck under competitive and not concept I think you want inputs to make it a more into a tier1 deck.


So I post you a revamped list of your deck:

Resource boosts (14):
5x political patronage
4x Damma Rossa
5x divine intervention

Agents (15):
5x Pious Warden *This makes Magnetic useful, and perfect with political*
5x Nicolo Machiavelli *Pressure and u got alot of Situational Cards to discard*
5x silvio barbarigo

Actions (21):
4x clothes makes the man
2x Shameless Theatrics *Think the utillity sites are a bigger pain, mob justice would be not to bad either here*
4x magnetic personality
3x tactical upheavel
3x wrath of the righteous
5x ancestral discovery

So I know you have wrath, but pious can really keep your enemy at go, and needing to stop him. If he wastes something on him, he does not have it for silvio. Your deck got alot cheap and explosive, and if you cannot win right away, your enemy is quit drained as well, and then the clothes/ancestral combo will give u the edge.

Especially read what I commented on your deck cards, so you see where the flaws are. The decklist on bottom is just an example.

btw I think heralds *the one that trigger when u score* are awesome with patronage and magnetic

[Brontobeuf]

Strong points.
I prefer the second list, but I would not play Machiavelli there. I'd rather find another agent in the 3/5 cost range to play with PP.

[mana]

great work rancord! before you posted i already tweaked it alot and some of your suggestions are already in the deck. but i dont agree with all of your inputs. i wont take out heathen for dama rossa since i also want those heathens on the field fast to block my enemy. this is more important to me than the slightly better resource boost. also i want to thin out my deck.
yes i cant believe it but i really put in mob justice ^^ i hate that card actually but sites wont jield the same results because i cant copy them and get them recycled that easily...

also i dont agree with pious warden. i find mystical stranger is stronger since the enemy has to counter him already when played and not with his agents. also i could recycle them too after wrath and get my enemy locked for some rounds. so i added some strangers.

i do agree with the point that i dont have anything to burst out with those PPs exept for silvios. either i have silvios or i discard sth from my opponent and steal it right away with AD. the ni got sth to burst out. not first round though... i was thinking about removing PP completely and adding dama rossa since i need to buy time and dont need that burst too much... i will try that out in some games. but then again i cant use my infinite resource boost (which is really insanely fast)

man of the people is expensive for sure but once copied you ll be fine. i always get more income than i actually need by the time i consider playing this card.

ill also stay with the 5x tactical upheavel since i can thin out my deck get resources and destroy wallers easily. also its used to boost silvio to a monster. (do that when he is 3/10 and your opponent didnt block him)

the quantity of magnetic personality should be reduced you are right. did it already.

sry for posting it in competetive section when its not completely finished yet ^^ but i felt like sharing it and getting some inputs. i know this deck will be competetive

i am sure your decklist works fine to but its just not really the concept i wanted

[The Rancord]

If your enemy plays alot of walls 5 tactical are fine. If he doesnt, you need to wait a long time before u can use them.

Damma Rossa can block as well While you thin out ure deck you cannot block. Especially in the early I find heathen folowers a pain. The only deck I like it, is bronto's Draw Cult.

Mystical Stranger is good but different. Mystical doesnt put up pressure. Either he counters him or not. while with Pious you have a constant threat on the board he needs to handle.

[mana]

well that means i cannot block for 1 round. that wont be too bad. also i get 4 heathen out pretty fast and can use my finishing combo (had a game right now where i finished my opponent in 2 days. he was playing a slow draw deck)

yes i see your point in pious. and i forgot that he scores with MP when blocked! so he is actually perfect for the deck thx!

[Ringel]

Not Order... Faith!

[mana]

Apr 13, 2012 13:57:08 GMT -5 Ringel said:

Not Order... Faith!

DAMN im stupid. can somebody change that please?

[The Rancord]

Apr 13, 2012 13:56:27 GMT -5 mana said:

yes i see your point in pious. and i forgot that he scores with MP when blocked! so he is actually perfect for the deck thx!

If you cut to many MP you can bring em back now