[faith/scholar] : Freemasons

[obdy]

Hi everyone,

I definitely decided to post here instead of competitive decks, for I guess I'm more in concepts than pure efficiency research.

The concept here is simple : Freemasons built cathedral in Europe during centuries and were looking to touch divine through science. They had (and some say still have) huge power.

There they are :

INCOME
4 Plentiful crop

BUILDINGS
5 Basilica di San Pietro
4 City Stables
4 Quiet chapel
3 Venezia, San Polo district
4 Santa Maria Novela (of course, my mistake when writing it down here, but that's as it was in my deck)

MASONS :
3 Master architects
4 Master engineers
3 Gaspar de la Croix

ACTIONS :
3 Quick Study
4 Lassitude
5 Field Study

INCOME
5 Plentiful crop

BUILDINGS
5 Basilica di San Pietro
4 City Stables
4 Quiet chapel
5 Venezia, San Polo district
4 Santa Maria Novela (of course, my mistake when writing it down here, but that's as it was in my deck)

MASONS :
3 Master architects
5 Master engineers
4 Gaspar de la Croix

ACTIONS :
3 Lassitude
3 Doomsday
5 Field Study

INCOME :
4 plentiful crop
4 Knowledge has a price

BUILDINGS :
4 Basilica di San Pietro (also here for income... did I have to mention that ? )
5 Venezia, San polo disctrict
4 Basilica di Santa Maria del Fiore

MASONS :
4 Master architects
4 Master engineers
4 Gaspar de la Croix

ACTIONS :
5 Lassitude
3 Doomsday
5 Tactical upheaval
4 pontifical highmass


Playbook :
One of each engineer out, and there it rocks. Every site makes you draw, has a +2 influence when it replaces another, and comes back in hand to be played again when replaced. Very convinient with San Polo against a Site deck.

Lassitude obviously is there to block agent based decks. Use Tactical upheaval to get rid of agents with unpleasant capacities, even the ones who have a single capacity when played, for they can be replayed as long as you have Gaspar in your board.

Doomsday can never hurt, but is very usefull against a site deck who will benifit from the same advatages as you (in case your out of San paolo)

The weakness here is that your share your advantages...

If anyone wants to improve it, I'd be glad to read your ideas

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Jun 5, 2012 4:38:51 GMT -5 obdy said:

The weakness here is that your share your advantages...

^^ That's why I like your Doomsday in there... It might just be difficult to draw it, with only 3 of 'm in there. Maybe you need 5 of those (or not, you should test it).

Also I would suggest you replace Pont. Highmass with some card drawing, getting you to your goal faster. I think you don't have a problem killing your opponent once your combo is on the table. So I'd focus on that more...

I've always liked sitedecks based on these engineer cards.

[mana]

replacing PH is a really good idea. it doesnt synergise with your architects. any draw card would fit in better in order to get your combo going faster.

[lurifaxb]

I agree with mana. Field study is cheap and draws as many cards as you have sites. Also I would recommend some *quick* study in there and less repeats of lassitude and doomsday - and maybe engineers. By being able to draw just what you need, you don't need as many duplicates. Consider some cheaper land cards as well like city stables or merchant ships. You will score mainly on many master engineer so deploying cheap sites are good and speeds up income. Speed and card draw is the strength of this deck.

I have a version of this deck and it rocks. It is not uncommon to have influence around 10 at sites.

[lurifaxb]

You definitely need more sites in there. You have 14 in a site focused deck. Swap some cards based on my comments above.

[wampyrs]

Why is Basilica di Santa Maria del Fiore is a Scholar deck?

As you have all churches, I would suggest Basilica di Santa Maria Novella.

[obdy]

Well, I did some of the changes suggested (see above), and it seems much more efficient indeed !

Not so sure yet about the quantities of everything i put in there. San Polo for example, I put 5 of these for I feel a land site would benifit a lot of my scholar boys...

[Joek]

Use converted chapel over quiet chapel for the Novella influence bonus.

[mana]

okay assume you dont play against a sitedeck and you draw 2 venecias.... wouldnt be too good...

id suggest to get 3 into the deck. 3 means your likely to see it once in a game. and instead of the other 2 id put in quick study. you could always search for venecias if you play a sitedeck but if not you can search out your other important combos.

[lurifaxb]

I agree with mana. Quick study is the way to go. 2-3 of those. Maybe take out a lassitude and/or doomsday as replacement. You can fetch them with quick study anyway.

[obdy]

Thanks ! Now it it goes like this (see above). I got rid of the Doomsday to focus more on scoring with sites... or should i go 2 doomsday / 2 lassitude ?...

Still, this deck doesn't seem very stable... If it doesn't start well, it's really slow and looses

Oh, and I don't really get the point of using converted chapel instead of quiet chapel ? Cash is not really an issue in this deck.

[Joek]

Oh. My fault. I mixed up village chapel and quiet chapel.

[obdy]

no problem. But still, it's more expensive but has less influence... The more expensive part is what makes it less valuable to me... or am I missing something ?