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Post by rl on May 8, 2012 8:30:37 GMT -5
Alright I'm ready for the trolling because of all the counters in this deck haha. I usually tend to try to stay away from them and try to make stuf that's more unique and fun, though this deck is pretty fun to play. I also had been using what seemed to be only [blank/scholar] for a while because I love the card advantage that is harder to get with decks that don't pack scholar. SO! enough blabbing here is what I ended up with. 50 CARDS Income/deck thin 5X Plentiful Crap 4X Discreet Calling 5X Tactical Upheaval 5X Forced Charity 3X Forced Inheritance Counters 5X Court Order 5X Preemptive Strike Core 5X Giovanni Auditore 3X Mario Auditore 5X Ezio Auditore 5X Cesare Borgia Alright so basically this deck just eliminates everything your enemy throws at you until midgame in you end up with 1-3 cards in your hand and your enemy 0 and you have a couple 2/2 and 5/5 agents on the field where as his HQ should be empty. pretty simple game plan the only thing you have to decide is when to use counters or an Auditore to eliminate a threat. It is a VERY strong deck and the only tweaking i could see as of now would be taking out the Forced inheritance for like a discrete calling and some marios.. though like I said works well as it is now. I'm not in love with the name of the deck either haha so any suggestions are accepted  |
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Post by Tuism on May 8, 2012 8:54:47 GMT -5
My Bad Bosses deck looks a lot like this I would swap out Plentiful Crap for By Order Of King to retain +1 card advantage cos you can fetch Cesare. Useless early game but thins deck + you have your card. |
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Post by Brontobeuf on May 8, 2012 9:05:57 GMT -5
I would keep the Crops to gain speed, which is the main issue of this deck. I would also play 5 Forced Inheritance because it's the best ressource gain card.
The second weakness is discard. But with the Papal bug, discard is no longer that popular, so this deck might very well be one of the best possible.
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Post by Tuism on May 8, 2012 9:14:16 GMT -5
That is true, the faster resource is probably needed for the countering and big boys to start dropping. However By Order > Teddi is a great income move. You only need one Teddy too.
As much as I LOVE tactical upheaval, I think it's more appropriate for decks that fears/has troubles with blocking walls like Dante and Amerigo. This deck is a get-back-from-behind deck so it should have troubles against amerigo and other 0 power delay-tactic walls.
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Post by rl on May 8, 2012 9:26:40 GMT -5
hmm.. i'm trying to think about how order of king and teddi work together as opposed to tactical... i feel like tactical is much stronger but I need to visualize it haha. I had order of the king though i just dont see the need to go "fetch" Cesare.. my thoughts were that i'll draw him when i draw him, he's useful but not as necessary as fetching the mercenaries. BUT i do love the point you raised that at least order of the king replaces itself, where as plentiful crop does not.. I will try it because i feel at times that this deck does have more income than it needs... as much as i never hate having high income haha
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Post by rl on May 8, 2012 9:27:51 GMT -5
maybe make it 4X OOKing 4x Discreet and 4X forced inheritance and scrap the crap  , plentiful that is haha I don't like 5X forced inheritance, seems too much(empties my hand) i'll try 4 though |
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Post by Tuism on May 8, 2012 10:40:01 GMT -5
early game order of the king to fetch teddy, drop teddi for zero - 2 income. Late game draw order of king, fetch cesare, or his sister tactical is only majorly useful if you are vulnerable to dante and amerigo etc. Otherwise it's pretty much just a chillax spam card. You'd want a Cesare better than a Upheaval in a lot of cases. Even worse in crop's case, but order > teddi = 2 income, same as crop, and it has better late game utility. |
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Post by Brontobeuf on May 8, 2012 10:43:29 GMT -5
He's vulnerable to Dante.
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Post by Tuism on May 8, 2012 10:52:24 GMT -5
Not entirely untrue  Upheaval is cool in most decks, especially in so in offensive weener rushers, and more dangerous in an agentless deck that's not as agent-offensive minded - IMO. and in this one it's no problem since you got your own targets to spam at too. The case against crops is stronger though I still think rather Order > Teddy than Crops. I forget how my Bad Bosses deck goes right now, will look it up later |
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Post by rl on May 8, 2012 11:22:17 GMT -5
Haha thanks for breaking it down Tuism. I think replacing crops for order and teddy V sounds good. But I still think tactical has a use for me. Like bronto said. Easy to get rid of Dante and walls and it replaces itself... It actually is quite the dilemma though.. Lol
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Post by ABXantos on May 8, 2012 11:58:08 GMT -5
Hmmm... I made a deck somewhat similar (and by similar I mean use Crime Order to use counters lol)
I will finish writing it up right now. Fell asleep while doing this and talking with my girlfriend.
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Post by rl on May 8, 2012 20:22:18 GMT -5
Tuism I have been busy today but i had the chance to play 2 games with teady V (i think the way i did it off the top of my head.. took out the plentifuls and took out 1 Tactical upheaval/ added 2 teddys and 4 OOking) I like it so far but we'll see after 10+ games
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Post by Rob (Roebidoebi) on May 9, 2012 1:23:59 GMT -5
Fell asleep while doing this and talking with my girlfriend. Maybe you should get her an iPad (with Recollection) too, so at least you can interact with her without falling asleep  |
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, plentiful that is haha
