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Post by evilkarma on Dec 22, 2011 16:10:43 GMT -5
So I put together a control deck (purple/green, and yes screw the faction names lol). To my amazement it wins at around a 75% rate? I don't have like 5 copies of every card so I'm surprised it's still this consistent. So either I got really lucky after winning 75% over ~30 games or there might be some very good potential in a deck like this.
Here is the EXACT decklist so far until I get more cards:
50 card deck
7 Agents
0 Sites
43 Actions
1 Dama Rossa
5 Salai
1 Leonardo Da Vinci
3 Plentiful Crop
2 Political Patronage
5 Knowledge Has A Price
3 Scientific Method
3 Knowledge Is Power
2 Laboratory Research
1 Daring Experiment
1 Quick Study
1 Pick Your Poison
3 Bitter Sweet
2 Easy Come, Easy Go
2 Wanted Posters
1 Impending Pandemic
1 History Glitch
5 Animus Reboot
5 Calling All Stand-Ins
3 Carnevale
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Okay, my explanation on why this deck has been so surprisingly consistent even with 1-ofs, is that I packed it with a ton of draw, kept it at 50 cards, and have 5 copies of the main control card (Animus Reboot).
The deck plays as you would expect a control deck to play. Build up gold/income. Draw. Reboot. Win con with Calling All Stand-Ins and Carnevale. I will always mulligan if I don't see 2-3 income boosting cards in my hand. The problem some decks have when they pump their income really high early game is when they don't have anything to do with it. I've won really early sometimes with a 2nd day Carnevale or 10/10 militant.
Win cons: Calling All Stand-Ins is very good. It is not susceptible to Untimely End because it doesn't launch as an agent and that is really useful. Under Arrest also doesn't kill it until you've basically won 1 region at least because it isn't a surprise. And lastly, Carnevale tokens will chump all game long or win if it can.
If I had 5 copies of every card in the game (and I don't even know if there are better cards to use here) I'd change the deck up a bit. Namely more Quick Study, 5 Knowledge Is Power, more Daring Experiment, another copy of Carnevale, 1 more Glitch, and maybe a few more Pick Your Poison.
Now with all that's said and done, it's probably faster to just switch out purple for blue to get the Pantheon/RI combo going but that's kind of lame. The way I see it is that that combo is quickly turning into the equivalent of Donate/Illusions of Grandeur combo from MTG lol.
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Post by Raphael Majere on Dec 22, 2011 17:02:54 GMT -5
The way I see it is that that combo is quickly turning into the equivalent of Donate/Illusions of Grandeur combo from MTG lol. That brings up lots of unpleasant memories.... (Suddenly everyone was digging their drawers looking for their Illusions of Grandeur "Where the hell did I chuck that card?!) But yeah, I agree. It's broken. 2 card combo that wins the game instantly. Plus with Monteriggioni - it cannot be stopped. |
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Post by Raphael Majere on Dec 22, 2011 17:13:21 GMT -5
My current control deck:
Not tuned. Testing in only in Single Mode (already won, playing vs AI)
I have problems with Wifi. Once i've tested in multiplayer I will report again.
Green/Gold - only 5 purple cards: Dama Rossa
Purple:
5 Dama Rossa
Gold:
5 Plentiful Crop
5 Nothing Ventured, Nothing G
4 Merchant Ship
4 Juno (The win condition)
2 Pilfer supplies
3 Family Heirloom (Key card: brings Juno/Animus/Glitch/Moneriggino to me)
2 Animus Report
2 Glitch
2 Monteriggioni
(I had 4 Spaniads previously - Was it wise to remove him?)
Green:
1 Daring Ex.
4 Leonardo (meatshield for anti-agent spells + block agent + rarely: win con)
2 Claudia Au.
1 Quick Study
5 In-depth
3 Impending Pandemic (Love the synergy with Rossa, Leo, looking for 5 of this!)
50 cards
I need a lot of advice, Please help!
What I feel I need:
Quick study: Max out 5.
More Impending pandemic
I tried removing Leo. But I ended losing. Am looking for more draw.
Need suggestions!
NOTES: I stopped playing this deck! I bought another $49.99 and now playing a Courtesan deck!
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Post by evilkarma on Dec 24, 2011 4:02:32 GMT -5
lol cheaper deck for you huh? XD
Anyway, Apple decided to give me a bonus refund so I got some Assassin packs. Changed it up a bit.
51 card deck
3 Leonardo Da Vinci
4 Plentiful Crop
2 Nothing Ventured Nothing Gained
2 Political Patronage
5 Knowledge Has A Price
3 Scientific Method
4 Knowledge Is Power
1 Daring Experiment
1 Lassitude
2 Quick Study
1 Monteriggioni
1 Pick Your Poison
2 Bitter Sweet
2 Easy Come, Easy Go
2 Wanted Posters
1 Impending Pandemic
1 History Glitch
5 Animus Reboot
5 Calling All Stand-Ins
3 Carnevale
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Was very lucky to pull 2 more Leos from just a couple packs! The Monteriggioni is pretty boss too, but only in very specific situations. Uncounterable Reboots and Carnevales are very powerful. I really need 1 more History Glitches and another Daring Experiment and one more Carnevale.
So I discovered a decent combo for my deck with the card Exit Stage Right (purple, 4, action, Replace target agent with a random agent from it's controller's sequence). This can essentially help me eliminate a large threat my opponent controls or I can basically target my own 2/2 Carnevale tokens or a 1/1 token from Calling All Stand-Ins and replace it with a Leonardo Da Vinci. Either way, it's 4 to cost for a 10 to cost agent. I think there is potential with this card.
I won like 90% of my games today lol, I'm still surprised.
AND WHERE IS THIS SAID AUCTION HOUSE?!
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Post by Raphael Majere on Dec 24, 2011 7:20:16 GMT -5
lol cheaper deck for you huh? XD Anyway, Apple decided to give me a bonus refund so I got some Assassin packs. Changed it up a bit. 51 card deck 3 Leonardo Da Vinci 4 Plentiful Crop 2 Nothing Ventured Nothing Gained 2 Political Patronage 5 Knowledge Has A Price 3 Scientific Method 4 Knowledge Is Power 1 Daring Experiment 1 Lassitude 2 Quick Study 1 Monteriggioni 1 Pick Your Poison 2 Bitter Sweet 2 Easy Come, Easy Go 2 Wanted Posters 1 Impending Pandemic 1 History Glitch 5 Animus Reboot 5 Calling All Stand-Ins 3 Carnevale -------------------------------- Was very lucky to pull 2 more Leos from just a couple packs! The Monteriggioni is pretty boss too, but only in very specific situations. Uncounterable Reboots and Carnevales are very powerful. I really need 1 more History Glitches and another Daring Experiment and one more Carnevale. So I discovered a decent combo for my deck with the card Exit Stage Right (purple, 4, action, Replace target agent with a random agent from it's controller's sequence). This can essentially help me eliminate a large threat my opponent controls or I can basically target my own 2/2 Carnevale tokens or a 1/1 token from Calling All Stand-Ins and replace it with a Leonardo Da Vinci. Either way, it's 4 to cost for a 10 to cost agent. I think there is potential with this card. I won like 90% of my games today lol, I'm still surprised. AND WHERE IS THIS SAID AUCTION HOUSE?! Yeah, I saw u post ur deck and tried to make something similar and ended up exactly what u suggested - Carnavle + Exit Stage right. I only have 4 Leos and 2 Spaniards in my deck. so....LOL, guaranteed super agent. Monteriggioni - IMO, every combo/control deck needs it! |
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Post by Diomedia on Dec 24, 2011 7:55:42 GMT -5
You guys have been lucky with your purchases  , I only got my first animus reboot yesterday, and I have one copy of a couple of the top agents apart from the spaniard and the assassin. I think I have 1 da Vinci too. And monteriggioni, I have been using this , I'm I correct in thinking it makes both players actions surprises? |
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Post by Raphael Majere on Dec 24, 2011 8:49:43 GMT -5
And monteriggioni, I have been using this , I'm I correct in thinking it makes both players actions surprises? Whoa, then that is not good. I always thought it's only for the player who cast it. Can EvilKarma verify this? |
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Post by Raphael Majere on Dec 24, 2011 8:52:14 GMT -5
You guys have been lucky with your purchases , I only got my first animus reboot yesterday, and I have one copy of a couple of the top agents apart from the spaniard and the assassin. I think I have 1 da Vinci too. Reboot is over-rated. Remember that your opponent's Region scores remain the same.... Da Vinci combo with Exit Stage Right/Carnivale token spawn - his ability triggers with place when he arrives at HQ. Draw 2 cards. Sweet. (I have 4 of him!) |
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Post by Diomedia on Dec 24, 2011 9:52:36 GMT -5
I seem to have picked up mainly rare sites, I have 5 copies of carnivale though but I'm yet to try your decks as I don't have the supporting cards.
With Monteriggioni I'm not sure, I'll check again next time I use it, although I do think it may be bugged as I noticed some actions were not launching as surprises and some of the opponents were, this may explain it but I'll check again.
Currently trying a green/purple deck (I've got 5 copies of Caha)
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Post by evilkarma on Dec 24, 2011 15:02:35 GMT -5
And monteriggioni, I have been using this , I'm I correct in thinking it makes both players actions surprises? Whoa, then that is not good. I always thought it's only for the player who cast it. Can EvilKarma verify this? Yes it affects your opponent as well. That's why I only run one and will only play it in very specific situations like when I NEED an uncounterable Reboot or Carnevale or something. HAHA good job man, how has the exit stage right been? pretty sweet fetching that Leo out and instantly drawing 2 cards lol And Reboot is so not overrated if you build around it =) |
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Post by Raphael Majere on Dec 24, 2011 19:48:13 GMT -5
Currently trying a green/purple deck (I've got 5 copies of Caha) Yes, I have 4 or 5 Caha too. That's my first deck. Purple weenies + Silvestro (+1/+1 to all militants) + Caha. Fun but not top tier. |
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Post by Raphael Majere on Dec 24, 2011 19:52:55 GMT -5
Whoa, then that is not good. I always thought it's only for the player who cast it. Can EvilKarma verify this? Yes it affects your opponent as well. That's why I only run one and will only play it in very specific situations like when I NEED an uncounterable Reboot or Carnevale or something. HAHA good job man, how has the exit stage right been? pretty sweet fetching that Leo out and instantly drawing 2 cards lol And Reboot is so not overrated if you build around it =) Yeah, that is exactly how I use monteriggioni, cast it and immediately do my Female Fatale, insta-unblockable kill. For the Purple/Caranivale deck, it's also v good. 1. Carnivale - uncounterable. and you have 6 x 2/2 agents really fast! 2. Another sweet combo - Send one of the Carnivale Spawn to block a stronger agent, cast Exit stage right. The blocking/attacking is nulled. His fat agent comes back to HQ to heal while I have a fully healed Leo/Spaniad due to to Exit stage right. |
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Post by crazygambit on Dec 26, 2011 14:18:33 GMT -5
Yes it affects your opponent as well. That's why I only run one and will only play it in very specific situations like when I NEED an uncounterable Reboot or Carnevale or something. HAHA good job man, how has the exit stage right been? pretty sweet fetching that Leo out and instantly drawing 2 cards lol And Reboot is so not overrated if you build around it =) Yeah, that is exactly how I use monteriggioni, cast it and immediately do my Female Fatale, insta-unblockable kill. For the Purple/Caranivale deck, it's also v good. 1. Carnivale - uncounterable. and you have 6 x 2/2 agents really fast! 2. Another sweet combo - Send one of the Carnivale Spawn to block a stronger agent, cast Exit stage right. The blocking/attacking is nulled. His fat agent comes back to HQ to heal while I have a fully healed Leo/Spaniad due to to Exit stage right. Calling all Stand Ins might very well be the best card in the game at the moment. Too bad purple doesn't cut it in a control deck. The ideal is gold for gaining income and reboots, blue for counters and forced inheritance and green for massive drawing and scientific espionage. Right now I'm playing a control deck with Juno as a win condition. It's a bit slow sometimes, but I love going up against against a purple deck. Using their Calling all Stand Ins as a win condition is quite fun. |
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Post by Pete on Dec 26, 2011 14:22:06 GMT -5
I feel the blue fraction is weak in the game.
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Post by crazygambit on Dec 26, 2011 14:56:46 GMT -5
I feel the blue fraction is weak in the game. Blue weak? Wow, talk about different oppinions. I think they're the strongest. They have what it takes to make a lot of different decks. Noble/Official rush, Control with Partheon and RI, plus 2 of the best counters in the game. 2 for any casting agent and 4 for any memory. Those 2 cards alone put Blue on the map. Borgia Site(?) the one that give +1/+1 to attacking agents is also pretty awesome. Oh and Cesare Borgia is the best 10 gold agent in the game. Blue works with everything. |
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