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Post by Tuism on Mar 14, 2012 4:24:21 GMT -5
Now if your opponent plays his cards fast enough, he can take cards out of his hand before you can steal them with Ritual Sacrifice, Answered Prayers, etc.
I suspect it works the other way around too then - a new card drawn will be added to the selection?
I prefer that if a card that's been played's been discarded, the player gets his gold back. So that discard players don't have to choose the discard in a split second and that the discardee (lol) don't get an unfair disadvantage...
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Post by Pete on Mar 14, 2012 4:28:49 GMT -5
I agree with tuism, but for a very simple reason: Often the carasol slows down the game for the players as they attempt to do this. Often I have dragged the card to the right place, only to find it didnt take.
Since the game has slowdowns, this stops legitimate plays, so it would make sense to include a few seconds either side to make a decision and revert the gold if that happens.
Pete
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Post by Tuism on Mar 14, 2012 4:48:39 GMT -5
Yep the lag kills split second plays. Which is not great... In a lag-free world I'm all for how it works now...
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Post by jefmajor on Mar 14, 2012 6:43:00 GMT -5
Is there a time limit on how long you can keep open something like Ritual Sacrifice or can you just play it whenever and wait for someone to draw a card?
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Post by Tuism on Mar 14, 2012 7:40:12 GMT -5
No there's no time limit... However: The waiting for someone to draw a card was taken out in the previous update to this most current one, but the newest update let people play their cards, removing it from the carousel, which to me also means that the cards drawn will also be added to the thing. So I think yes it's now back to being able to wait for a draw, but I haven't tested it yet. Someone please test  Besides the possibility and reality of lag, selecting a card in the carousel to discard is intrinsically slower than dragging the new card from your hand into play, so discarding is intrinsically slower than playing, so discard/steal is at a disadvantage if both players are waiting for a draw to come in. I maintain my above opinion on this - let new draws NOT be updated to the carousel, and let people discard cards that has been played - but refund the player playing the card so they're not at an unfair disadvantage. |
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Post by Ringel on Mar 14, 2012 9:47:02 GMT -5
I finally collected enough assassin rares to put together a discard deck, and was testing it on story mode when I figured this out. Well, I can no longer say discard is overpowered You could change it so if there is exactly one card to choose, the choice is automatic. |
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Post by Rob (Roebidoebi) on Mar 14, 2012 10:33:31 GMT -5
You could change it so if there is exactly one card to choose, the choice is automatic. Or add a double-tap to quickly select a card. It has happened a lot to me today that my opponent was quicker to play it than I could steal it  Having to select the card and press "confirm" puts the one stealing in a difficult position. I also had some screw-ups (bugs?) where I had two cards active that would allow me to take or discard something from the opponents hand. In the end I got nothing (and nothing was discarded) and my opponent played everything  |
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Post by tortimer on Mar 14, 2012 11:29:05 GMT -5
I don't know if this is the best answer but discard was broken IMO. It is just not right to be locked down without a chance to play something. It was the only thing I really didn't care for with acr play. Now you at least can possibly play something and not sit and watch the game with no hope.
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Post by jeremyat on Mar 14, 2012 13:10:58 GMT -5
I noticed it as well the last time I tried to play my deck destruction...uh...deck. I think I'm going to remove the ritual sacrifices and put in some doomsdays and try to play them right as the day changes to see if it will remove the drawn card before they have an opportunity to play it. I thought maybe I was just mistiming my play, but it's pretty clear from this discussion that it's been changed.
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Post by Tuism on Mar 14, 2012 13:26:07 GMT -5
if you play it right after the cursor moves off the right to the left side of the screen then you should be able to discard their draw. It's the selecting the card that screws it up, cos that selection is intrinsically slower than playing it (drag and drop = faster)
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Post by Rob (Roebidoebi) on Mar 14, 2012 14:18:47 GMT -5
Rightly so, I think I'll replace the choose and pick ones with simple discards...
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Post by Ringel on Mar 14, 2012 15:52:28 GMT -5
[quote author=tuism board=gen thread=670 post=5766
I suspect it works the other way around too then - a new card drawn will be added to the selection?
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I'm pretty sure it does not. I know it does not if your opponent's hand is empty when your card resolves.
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Post by Tuism on Mar 14, 2012 16:31:58 GMT -5
Just tested it, yep New draws don't show up in the selection. Lol discard got owned all around Now there's a chance that you might not get to discard your opponents draw cos you're also at a disadvantage cos discard interface is slower AND you might get lagged... Maybe you should give the opponent an opportunity to escape from a court order by throwing a dice  cos that's how discard feels like now |
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Post by gamemaestro on Mar 14, 2012 17:30:48 GMT -5
Interesting. I haven't played discard in a few days (played several hundred games with it previously, got a little bored with it) but it sounds like I should check it out again. Maybe this will hurt my winning % some  . I have been playing a Lanz deck mainly and some order rush junk (Ringel finally played me a few days ago and tried to scope my deck with a PP and pick your poison to see that I was playing an order deck with only 1 rare in it). |
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Post by Ringel on Mar 14, 2012 18:03:36 GMT -5
Yes. That was my anti-discard deck! I lost badly before getting disconnected. I ended up stealing an Untimely End. |
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Having to select the card and press "confirm" puts the one stealing in a difficult position.
cos that's how discard feels like now 
. I have been playing a Lanz deck mainly and some order rush junk (Ringel finally played me a few days ago and tried to scope my deck with a PP and pick your poison to see that I was playing an order deck with only 1 rare in it).