Help! Mind over Might

[neasdf]

Hi!
I'm a new player in this game, and I still use the First Squence. How can I use this to beat AI in the challenge Mind over Might? What cards can be uedful in this challenge?
Please help. Thanks.

[Ringel]

What number/city is that again?

[phaustus]

Mind Over Matter is the 9th challenge (available once you've beaten the initial story mode).

The rules of that challenge stipulate that your agents have no power and your sites no influence.

Maybe I'm missing something, but that basically leaves you with only 2 different ways of winning: gaining influence outside of scoring with agents/sites, or an alternate win condition.

As far as alternate win conditions are concerned, I only know of Juno and Novella Catacombs, both of which are only found in Assassin packs, so I will assume you don't have access to them.

That leaves us with ways to gain influence outside of the normal scoring way. There are few ways of doing this but they fortunately are all found in the Templar packs.

Since you made it all the way to that challenge, I will assume you should have quite a few aenimus credits to spare (probably at least 2500). You should definitely buy some templar packs with those, if you haven't already done so, and work on building a new sequence.

Off the top of my head, there are only a handful of cards that will let us gain influence points outside of normal scoring:

• Papal Influence
  
• Michello Corella
  
• Art Gallery
  
• Merchant's Guild
  
• Castel Sant' Angelo
  
• Basilica di San Marco
  
• Royal Intervention
  
• Leonardo's Workshop
  
• Petro Rossi
  
• Giovanni Mossenigo
  
• Crypt Della Vistazione
  

The last 5 cards of this list are Assassin rares, so we will disregard them.

That leaves us with Papal Influence, Michello, Art Gallery, Merchant's Guild, the Castel and Basilica di San Marco.

I'd say those cards would lend themselves rather well to a weenie Church/Media deck where you would chump block with agents that you bring out mostly to increase your income, and then try to score points using mostly Art Gallery and Papal Influence.

I won't give you a complete decklist, but here's something that could get you started:

Agents: (15)
5x Horse Merchant
3x Persistent Panhandler
2x Dama Rossa
5x Cahin

Actions: (20)
5x Bitter Repentance
5x Papal Influence
5x A Call to Action
5x Sudden Exhaustion

Sites: (15)
5x Merchant Ship
5x Basilica di San Pietro
5x Art Gallery

Note that I purposely used very few rares in this deck, and all the cards are from the Templar packs. If you have access to Assassin cards, then Plentiful Crops would be a better acceleration cards. If you have several rares, more Dama Rossa or even Carnivale could be interesting additions (Carnivale will give you a lot of fodder to block/campaign with). Heathen Follower would also be a very good addition and, coupled with Carnivale, would probably make the inclusion of Basilica di San Marco viable. Clothes Make the Man would also be pretty fantastic with Papal Influence, if you have access to them.

I'm not entirely sure this deck can work, I think it might into some trouble against some of the AI-piloted decks, but there's probably a good chance you could win, on a decent draw...

Let me know how that goes for you

[Ringel]

Here is an article about the challenge: acreedrecollection.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=faq&action=display&thread=668

[thedude808]

Definitely check the article Ringel linked to. It has every card listed that can help you score. Phaustus listed some good ones, but there are more of course.

Also, Carnivale does not work in this challenge like you think it does. Instead of giving you 2/2 agents, it gives you 0/2 agents. You would have to raise their power somehow with other cards to be able to campaign score with those agents. It's a little counterintuitive, but that's the way it works.

[neasdf]

THANKS!
I got some packs and used Militia Training,Egidio Troche,Carlo Grimaldi,Teodor Viscardi(I found his ability was very useful in this challenge)with Borgia Tower and Templar Sanctum to win the challenge. I think Beautiful Heiress and Just Cause could help but I bought many packs and still got none of them.

[phaustus]

Mar 16, 2012 19:00:00 GMT -5 thedude808 said:

Definitely check the article Ringel linked to. It has every card listed that can help you score. Phaustus listed some good ones, but there are more of course.

Also, Carnivale does not work in this challenge like you think it does. Instead of giving you 2/2 agents, it gives you 0/2 agents. You would have to raise their power somehow with other cards to be able to campaign with those agents. It's a little counterintuitive, but that's the way it works.

I was actually aware that it would give you 0/2 agents but since you can still campaign with 0-power agents, it lets you "overrun" your sites and get points on Art Gallery, or chump-block with them, so Carnivale still ends up being a pretty decent card (there is a distinction between campaigning and scoring, you don't need power to campaign, and you get whatever bonus is assigned with that instantly, but scoring requires power, and only occurs once you've campaigned without being blocked).

I didn't know that you could *add* to an agent's existing power (0 in this case), and end up with a positive number. That's why I only listed cards that directly influenced your score.

[thedude808]

Yeah, you're right. I wrote campaign instead of score. The Carnivale agents definitely help with Art Gallery and blocking. When I said Carnivale does not work like you think it does, the "you" was directed at everyone reading this not you in particular. I noticed you didn't put it in your list of cards that help score.

I just wanted to clarify for new people that might be reading this specifically what it does because it's confusing. Since the Carnivale agents are derived from an action, I figured they would bypass the challenge restriction, but they definitely do not.