[order/faith] noble based deck

[fireonsight]

Started this deck to beat RC9 with mostly templar cards and some cards I got from the 3 Assassin pack I bought. Tried it out on versus record so far is 10-2(not that that counts for anything , I was 10-3 yesterday with the default sequence deck ...) , then again I was quite lucky on many occasions.

I feel there is some potential and could massively improve this deck but I would need some help from the Pros here .

The General Idea is to mass nobles and attack. Backup plans lies in Judgement Day and Papal Influence if managed to do initial rush to 5-6 but blocked by major agents on the other side, so push it over the top.

[Gold Boosters] -6
1X plentiful crop
5X Forced Inheritance

[Influence Boosters] -7
2X judgement Day
2X seeking sanctuary
3X Papal Influence

[Control] -6
3X Untimely end
1X Under arrest
2X Mob Justice

[others] -5

1X holy calling
1X divine Intervention
1X order of the King
2X ritual sacrifice

[sites] - 9
1X secluded village
1X Merchant Guild
3X Basilica Di san Pietro
4X Borgia Tower

[agents] -18
3X teodor viscardi
2X Dante Moro
5X Arquebusier
5X beautiful Heiress
2X The Spainard
1X il Carnefice

I will put the cards I have in this 3 suits in the next post

Edited based on feedback, made changes to deck on my own and updated current status

Edit 2: further changes

[fireonsight]

Cards I have to improve the deck

[Golden]
1X plentiful crop
1X secluded village
1X Pilfer Supplies
1X Merchant Guild
7X horse Merchant
1X capable carpenter
3X merchant ship
1X nothing ventured nothing gain
4X city stables
2X peaceful retreat
2X tactical Upheaval
3X zealous banker
3X Jacopo de pazzi
3X honest worker
3X coastal watchtower
3X sudden exhaustion
4X Acclaim Clothier
5X follower of romulus
4X Borgia Mine
5X Mob Justice
4X Emilio Barbargio
3X Rich Merchant
2X Market Street
2X Lair of romulus
1X Forgotten Temple
1X Foru
2X The Spainard
[Faith]

3X Basilica Di san Pietro
2X judgement Day
2X seeking sanctuary
3X Papal Influence
3X Basilica Di san marco
4 X papal Bull
1X holy calling
1X divine Intervention
1X sacred Vision
3X obedient priest
4X brother ristoro
7X bitter repentance
7X papal Guard
3X mysterious stranger
3X village Chapel
6X pious Captain
3X venetian Church
1X basilica di santa maria del fiore
2X roma, vaticano district
1X ritual sacrifice
5X borgia cardinal
4X Juan Borgia the elder
1X faithful monk
1X basilica di santa maria novella
1X crypt della visitazione

[order]

5X teodor viscardi
5X Milita Pikeman
5X Milita Training
5X Forced Inheritance
5X Arquebusier
2X Charles de la motte
5X beautiful Heiress
4X Borgia Tower
3X Carlo Grimaldi
1X order of the King
1X Just cause
2X Dante Moro
5X Gruesome Gallows
2X faux pas
1X Militia Patrolman
5X untimely end
4X Militia regulars
5X Donato mancini
2X Vieri De Pazzi
1X radical demontion
4X Militia captain
1X Macro Barbargio
4X court order
5X Militia horseman
4X Francesco de Pazzi
5X Francesco Troche
3X Borgia battlements
4X Under arrest
3X Militia Brute
8X militia Barracks
6X preemptive strike
2X Tax collectors office
1X il Carnefice

[mana]

hmm first of all when building a deck you should categorize your cards in a diffrent way. this way it is very difficult for the other users to analyze your deck. look at the other deck building threats and how they did it.

now to your deck:

i dont see a real reason why you would want to have a pfiler supplies in it. another income boost instead would fit better.

okay i will edit this post tomorrow since i dont have time right now and add aome more points

[fireonsight]

Mar 20, 2012 19:20:50 GMT -5 mana said:

hmm first of all when building a deck you should categorize your cards in a diffrent way. this way it is very difficult for the other users to analyze your deck. look at the other deck building threats and how they did it.

now to your deck:

i dont see a real reason why you would want to have a pfiler supplies in it. another income boost instead would fit better.

okay i will edit this post tomorrow since i dont have time right now and add aome more points

Thanks for the feedback, re-edited my post and might take Plifier supplies out, it looks good on paper so I put it in after getting it from booster.

[mana]

okay ill just post below you now.

i played your deck a few times now and as i thought it has a big card advantage problem. what i want to say is that your hand runs out of cards quickly and you rely completely on your next draw all the time. that means you always only have 1 card to respond to your opponents moves. this is rather typical for a complete rush deck but your deck isnt feeling like a fast rush at all. a good idea would be to focus your deck more into one direction. i have never seen a really good red/blue agent focussed rush deck since red can really only rush with sites. so if you want to go into the rush deck direction you should either get rid of red or replace your agents with heavy blue/gold sites.

okay what i did with your deck and cards is to make it more of a control deck:

throw out:
-1x secluded village (this card is just too bad to include in any deck exept for site rush with pontificial highmass or sth.)
-2x judgement day
-2x seeking sanctuary ( just a card that gives 2 influence more. why not get another site? my point is you need to have a site out on the field before you can play this card. but an equal strong site can be played anytime )

-3x papal influence ( not really bad here but just a one time scorer which would imo fit better into rush than into a control deck )
-1x holy calling ( would be a nice early resource boost but most of the time there are no agents in the archive when you really wanna play it )

-2x mob justice ( i included alot of counters so you can get rid of mob justice )
-5x arquebusier ( strong card for rushes maybe but no control at all )
-5x beautiful heiress ( not worth including her anymore since i threw out most of the affected agents )
-1x under arrest ( same as mob justice. counters are better )

add:
-1x marco barbarigo ( official with counter included. biiig card )
-5x preemptive strike ( getting one card while the enemy is loosing one (important) card is very strong )
-4x court order
-3x carlo grimaldi ( i dont know why you didnt play him in your deck 0.o )
-1x forli ( just a good win con )
-3x mysterious stranger ( play it shortly after day changed to night to gain more card advantage... then use borgia tower^^)
-2x tactical upheavel ( for me an auto include... it replaces itself, destroys wallers like amerigo vespucci and can be used as a semi resource boost while weakening the attack power of an 5/1 agent to a 1/5 )

-2x sudden exhaustion ( making an agent completely useless and giving some income as a surprise is actually pretty strong)




well i played that deck 10 times now and i lost twice... once because of a rather bad hand and bad drawluck and the other one because i was cooking and failed to counter my opponents win con
so its a solid deck id say. but there sure is a lot more to improve when you get more cards

ofc this is just a suggestion and you can tweak it to fit your own playstyle. feel free to ask if you dont understand certain changes or anything.

[fireonsight]

Thanks for the advice, I figured after a few games I keep running out of cards as well although sometimes on a good hand I could actually managed a win over players with a better deck.:/, would switch to try your variant .

I actually is trying another variant once I figured out this problem by throwing out all the red and replacing with most the crime cards I have since I have quite a few powerful Single cards from my few assasin packs like Change of plans ,Ezio auditore, lanz, antonio de magianis , discreet calling help me get at least 1 or 2 in my hand , works ok better than my red/blue variant slightly in terms of win. And control in nimble thrust , east target ,controlled arson.

[Rob (Roebidoebi)]

Hooray for Mana! I've not seen anybody giving this level of support! Usually it's like: read the starters section. I'll press exalt on you a couple of times!

[mana]

i wont do that everytime though he was lucky

[Tuism]

Good job but to be honest people SHOULD go read the academy section, it's full of great info, and there has been so many similar starter deck advice requests. Who's up for consolidating a couple of these post's good advice and putting an article in academy?

I just don't like doing the same thing a million times if it can be helped, you know?

[mana]

i was boored^^