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Post by mana on May 3, 2012 15:42:02 GMT -5
its about time to post my next deck. again winratio above 90% and so much fun to play. the best word to describe it is "leospam" i had this deckconcept once already but found it beeing not strong enough. i tweaked it and ended up with removing ESR and getting to my "swiper no swiping" deck. now i took that deck again and went back to the roots and made it work. i wanted to make a consitent ESR deck whcih can also win when the combo doesnt fire off soon. the butcher decks problem is that it sacrifices all cardadvantage to get the one combo going. this deck does not care about counters. ESR may be countered and you still win. Leos cant be coutnered by Sci Esp so your drawpower is relativly save. well i think you get the idea and i dont want to talk too much about it. just play it and find out yourself. so here's the decklist: Agents: 5x Leo Actions -income boosts: 5x KIP 5x PP 2x Plentiful crop -copycards: 5x copycat 5x aux ego -utility & counters 3x Sci Esp 3x tactical upheavel 3x PYP -virtual agents: 5x call to action 4x calling all standins -combocards: 5x ESR playbook: try to get off ESR combo for first leo. copy him 2000000 times. like last time: the one suggesting the best name gets a expensive card for free
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Post by jeremyat on May 3, 2012 16:18:03 GMT -5
Do you really need five copies of copycat in this deck? I can't imagine you're copying something very frequently with that card--even a launching leonardo needs at least twelve income to be reliably copied (either through playing him 10-cost or right after a 6-cost auxiliary ego). I know it can be helpful, but five seems a bit too much for a card that's marginally effective.
As for the deck name suggestion, I'd go for Leo's Dramatic Entrance. It fits the theme of the deck because he appears suddenly with the exit stage right, and it fits the "artistry" theme of many media-based cards. As an added bonus, MtG's version of "dramatic entrance" allows you to play a green creature card for free.
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Post by Brontobeuf on May 3, 2012 18:26:43 GMT -5
Da Vinci Clones
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Post by jmeredith06 on May 4, 2012 0:21:48 GMT -5
Vidi Vidi Vinci!
Or
Da'Vinci Vision (double vision, Da'Vinci vision get it?!)
Or
Double Da'Vinci Dynamo
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Post by Tuism on May 4, 2012 0:23:24 GMT -5
The Vitruvian Men
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Post by mana on May 4, 2012 2:12:50 GMT -5
guys its still deckdiscussion here i dont wanna hear names only^^ i agree that 5x copycat sounds much. and indeed having 3 of them early on is not a thing you want to have. but as soon as you get out your first leo and copy him with aux ego you can afterwards copy the 0 cost leo very fast. you wont have any sort of income issues. its a rather fast deck. also copycat adds alot to this decks consistency since it can more or less counter heavy sites etc. copying the enemys strategy is always pretty useful when you just dont seem to get the right cards. you can always delay the game then.
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Post by Blind_Angel_(Juelette) on May 4, 2012 2:31:32 GMT -5
That is the goal of ESR? copydeck IMHO the best deck for present, and the power is to copy opponent threats, if they better then yours.
I think ESR must work with the butcher, the goal is that he official 10\10, Leo could be blocked, and he 5\5. I don't know the name, the concept of another deck: very fast income+Cezare+ copy Cezare.
That deck very fast but poor draw power. Replace Cezare with Leo and you have draw power, but less speed. I don't need ESR at all.
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Post by thest4lker on May 4, 2012 2:38:10 GMT -5
Blind_Angel, the reason for Leo is it is more consistent. A single sudden exhaust kills your butcher, but even if your leo is blocked/exhausted, he has his card draw.
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Post by mana on May 4, 2012 2:46:07 GMT -5
Blind_Angel means i could just cut ESR out. well then im at my own "swiper..."copydeck. also ESR gives me the opportunitiy to start copiing my leos very early. you could really name it a leo rush. enemy is flooded with threats. i dont copy his threats exept they are even bigger than my leos (san gimignano and sometimes ezio)
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Post by Blind_Angel_(Juelette) on May 4, 2012 3:17:00 GMT -5
I only say my IMHO. i don't understand anything in competetive decks for present. I have only 3 decks that looks always good, all others is time to time ( that means fun imho). The decs are: mana's swiping, media lanz, and blue lanz.
I don't try this deck, but i think it useless. I mean concept: look always good.
I have one idea: tournament with constracted deck. one deck during all time. if we never mind on bugs, i'll be interested in such tournament. And we can see what deck are really good?
may be ESR+Leo is Good, but ESR+Ilcarny the best. The stability is the question for all decks exept 3 i sad before.
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Post by mana on May 4, 2012 3:20:56 GMT -5
blind angel go play against it with the 3 decks you mentioned above^^ pretty sure i win those matches exept maybe against my own swiper deck.
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Post by Blind_Angel_(Juelette) on May 4, 2012 3:21:29 GMT -5
i still think, that big income much more better than ESR. if it not ESR+ butcher combo.
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Post by mana on May 4, 2012 3:23:34 GMT -5
the butcher combo is much too weak. it would lose against any decent deck... sudden exhaust or a countered ESR and its done for
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Post by Tuism on May 4, 2012 3:23:40 GMT -5
Hmmmm look at this for trade off: you're trading 9+5 cards in virtual agents and ESR to bridge the gap from 6 cost and drawing a Leo. What if you you replaced those with actual draw power and income? I only think that the 1/1s are next to useless on their own... And either side of the combo fails without the other... But I can see that the consistency is there with the 6 cost Leo when it does go off I'll also jump in and tweak when I'm done with Chuck Lock
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Post by Blind_Angel_(Juelette) on May 4, 2012 3:30:14 GMT -5
it will be cool. We need only to reconcile the playtime, it's not so easy to me.
I also think that Lanz lose to your deck. Copydeck (ESR or not, it still copydeck ) is strongest in this meta IMHO.
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