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Post by ltgab on Jan 21, 2012 15:05:39 GMT -5
Tactical upheaval on a Silvia barbarigo... He should become a 4/3, but instead became a 4/4. Doesn't matter most of the time since he is safe anyway, but against fierce agents 1 point makes a difference... I asked Marc, our Game Director, about this one and it is by design. What I recal from our conversation is that safe prevent any change to the health of agents. I understand the text might not be all that clear about this, but it's a nice little add-on for this ability.
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Post by mana on Jan 21, 2012 15:16:10 GMT -5
i totally agree there some nice combinations are possible and it should stay this way
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Post by Tuism on Jan 21, 2012 15:43:53 GMT -5
Ok, then the safe's description shouldn't be "prevents neutralization" as it is now in the help section, but rather "prevents any change to agent's health" Cool thanks for clearing that up. So any large health agent can be safe and turne into giants with upheaval fun!
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Post by Tuism on Jan 21, 2012 15:55:23 GMT -5
While we're on the topic of safe, is silvio barbarigo supposed to be uncounterable, or not? <Edit: ok I saw the other reply now and assume that it means silvio IS or hould be counterable, right now only when you tap to target, not when dragging to target.>
Also to say that it prevents any change to his health - does that mean you can't increase it either?
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Post by mana on Jan 21, 2012 16:46:04 GMT -5
oh ye that reminds me of sth. i wanted to post here that for me neither "drag n drop" nor "click and click" works for countering silvio... about increasing health... erm never tried but i assume that it prevents hp point reduction (at least it should only do that - if not id consider that a bug )
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Post by 3ndem1c on Jan 21, 2012 17:23:46 GMT -5
I built a tactical upheaval / 0 health agent / Safe deck and encountered a bug. When you play amerigo vespucci and make him safe and then tactical upheaval on him, he gets 5/5. When you then play sudden exhaustion on an opponent agent, vespucci just dies. This has to be fixed cos I think there is a real potential in this kind of deck, but only if the own cards don't die because of the bug. Could have won several matches, but my agents all died so it was unplayable.
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Post by mana on Jan 21, 2012 17:52:00 GMT -5
ah okay i had that situation too i didnt figure out what was going on there
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Post by Diomedia on Jan 22, 2012 3:54:08 GMT -5
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Post by Diomedia on Jan 22, 2012 4:08:48 GMT -5
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Post by Tuism on Jan 22, 2012 14:07:23 GMT -5
I stole an opponent's change of plans, which I then used to target his antonio de margian, just as it completes an attack. When change of plans resolved Antonio did not come to my hq. I had completely full slots... Right, is this the change of plans not working when opponent has a full hq bug?
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Post by Brontobeuf on Jan 22, 2012 23:20:45 GMT -5
When you steal cards, they don't behave very correctly most of the time. It's a huge source of bugs! Silvio shouldn't be counterable. He is always safe, "always" is clear. And the only way to put him in the archive should be via discard effects. The bug is that, sometimes, he is counterable. Don't know why.
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Post by Ringel on Jan 22, 2012 23:50:07 GMT -5
According to the dev post somewhere, he should be counterable. Maybe they should drop "always" from the description?
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Post by Tuism on Jan 23, 2012 0:20:09 GMT -5
I agree, I think Silvio shouldn't be counterable, but yep the devs say that any effects on an agent card only takes place after the agent has resolved. I reckon if that's the case the card text should change to "Silvio is always safe after he is in play" or "resolved" or something. Just to clarify.
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Post by Tuism on Jan 23, 2012 1:10:51 GMT -5
I would love to be able to see the number of players online/in games when I'm waiting for a new game. It sucks I might be waiting for noone and not know about it.
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Post by Ringel on Jan 23, 2012 1:39:03 GMT -5
I propose starting a new thread, once the new version is out.
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